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Was there evidence of the Philistines around 1500 BCE, before the time of the Exodus?

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
Not only that, but the Egyptians built the pyramids and temples themselves. They did not use slaves.
True, it is possible that the Exodus account is loosely based the Canaanite Hyksos expelled from Northern Egypt. They constructed a lot of buildings in Northern Egypt, and were not slaves.
 

River Sea

Well-Known Member
I was brought attention to this when @Aupmanyav showed that these names weren't in the same locations.

Then I learned about names that, 500 BCE, were transposed over to locations for Rama and Krishna during their life time in ancient India. I found this from the book Common Prophets by @Bharat Jhunjhunwala


Due to names from 500 BCE and to transpose to locations. Yet I am getting lost. I'll do my best to show what I comprehend so far.

@Aupmanyav showed that Girivraja, Rajgriha, Magadha are far east, far away from Mohenjo Daro, which is what brought my attention to this and the reason why I asked.


@Bharat Jhunjhunwala @GoodAttention @Aupmanyav @shunyadragon

I'm seeing if I comprehend this about transpose words names. This word transpose was used in the book Common Prophets @Bharat Jhunjhunwala and it confuses me. I get lost at times.

If I understand correctly Due to finding names 500 BCE. Then transpose names in the locations of ancient India are based on Rama and Krishna situations in ancient India. Example: see quote below from @Bharat Jhunjhunwala showing the old cyclopean wall dates from 500 BCE, indicates that Rajgir did not exist at 1500 BCE. Because of this, name transpose to location in Ancient India

If you read the quotation carefully, the 2500-year-old cyclopean wall, which dates from 500 BCE, indicates that Rajgir did not exist at 1500 BCE.


Gerar land of the Philistines - Monenjo Daro - Girivraja Rajgriha Magadha.JPG



@Aupmanyav showed that Girivraja, Rajgriha, Magadha are far east, far away from Mohenjo Daro, which is what brought my attention to this and the reason why I asked.

@Bharat Jhunjhunwala
I went to the book Common Prophets to see about this. Please see screenshots. I focus on the name Girivraja, which's far east yet will be the location of west for Mohenjo Daro. And it's due to finding names in 500 BCE. So transpose to the location for showing about Rama and Krishna.

(I continue writing more below screenshots)

Girivraja was transposed from Mohenjo Daro to Rajgir.JPG

Transposition of names of places related with Krishna.JPG


Showing west Mohenjo Daro Girivraja to east Rajgriha.JPG


Mohenjodaro is very much Indian - (Mohana jo dero - The camp of fisherfolk). This is in Sindhi/Multani/Saraiki languages of Pakistan).
The fisherfolk of Indus river are known as Mohanas in Pakistan.
Of course, this was not the actual name of whatever the people of Mohenjodaro and Harappa called their cities as. We do not know that.

@Aupmanyav

I agree Mohenjodaro is very much Indian. However, here's what confuses me: as you @Aupmanyav were showing about merging, how come here I read this word conquer? Because how to trade when conquering? I thought merging would allow for trading, and that was the reason for merging, am I understanding?

What is this about @Bharat Jhunjhunwala when using the word conquer; how did trading happen then?
Screenshot

Girivraja Mohenjo Daro.JPG
 
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shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
I was brought attention to this when @Aupmanyav showed that these names weren't in the same locations.

Then I learned about names that, 500 BCE, were transposed over to locations for Rama and Krishna during their life time in ancient India. I found this from the book Common Prophets by @Bharat Jhunjhunwala


Due to names from 500 BCE and to transpose to locations. Yet I am getting lost. I'll do my best to show what I comprehend so far.

@Aupmanyav showed that Girivraja, Rajgriha, Magadha are far east, far away from Mohenjo Daro, which is what brought my attention to this and the reason why I asked.


@Bharat Jhunjhunwala @GoodAttention @Aupmanyav @shunyadragon

I'm seeing if I comprehend this about transpose words names. This word transpose was used in the book Common Prophets @Bharat Jhunjhunwala and it confuses me. I get lost at times.

If I understand correctly Due to finding names 500 BCE. Then transpose names in the locations of ancient India are based on Rama and Krishna situations in ancient India. Example: see quote below from @Bharat Jhunjhunwala showing the old cyclopean wall dates from 500 BCE, indicates that Rajgir did not exist at 1500 BCE. Because of this, name transpose to location in Ancient India




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@Aupmanyav showed that Girivraja, Rajgriha, Magadha are far east, far away from Mohenjo Daro, which is what brought my attention to this and the reason why I asked.

@Bharat Jhunjhunwala
I went to the book Common Prophets to see about this. Please see screenshots. I focus on the name Girivraja, which's far east yet will be the location of west for Mohenjo Daro. And it's due to finding names in 500 BCE. So transpose to the location for showing about Rama and Krishna.

(I continue writing more below screenshots)

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@Aupmanyav

I agree Mohenjodaro is very much Indian. However, here's what confuses me: as you @Aupmanyav were showing about merging, how come here I read this word conquer? Because how to trade when conquering? I thought merging would allow for trading, and that was the reason for merging, am I understanding?

What is this about @Bharat Jhunjhunwala when using the word conquer; how did trading happen then?
Screenshot

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I see no relationship of names of locations in India problem has anything to so with the issue of Exodus or the history of the Philistines before 1500 BCE.

There is no evidence for the existence of the Garden of Eden, Adam. Eve, Cain or Abel outside the mythology of Genesis, Assigning locations in India without any evidence is equally problematic. One myth cannot justify the existence of another myth.

Pease explain.
 
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FredVB

Member
In the 18th dynasty, there was no ruler over the Hebrew people. They had their own customs and traditions even when under the oppression of the Thutmose reign in Egypt.
 

GoodAttention

Well-Known Member
The "Philistines" were peoples who were not Egyptian, Canaanite, or Israelite, and who were sea-faring.

Those that lived in Gerar at the proposed time of Abraham could be of Minoan origin, given this civilization traded with Egypt at the time circa 2000BCE. It is also conceivable that the Minoan's were invited to inhabit Gerar by the Egyptians, or did so of their own accord to secure trade.

The King of Gerar could instead be a prince of Minoan royalty, with Abimelech meaning "my father is king" to signify his loyalty and position.
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
In the 18th dynasty, there was no ruler over the Hebrew people. They had their own customs and traditions even when under the oppression of the Thutmose reign in Egypt.
What evidence can you provide that the Hebrews were "under the oppression of the Thutmose reign in Egypt."
 
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