We Are All Born Muslim

[ChristineM]

If I commit a sin in front of them, will they still treat me decently?

Quite probably. Relatively few are hard line fanatics.

 

[Cooky]

As the only Muslim in this current thread ill answer... Yes. Its sad how you view and look down upon Islam. Id rather suffer than be the type to judge someone else.

Yet you call me, personally, a cancer... Because I sinned.

And in my view your the cancer but I wont say your forcing people against their will when you share youe opinions.

 

[Cooky]

Quite probably. Relatively few are hard line fanatics.

The OP just treated me badly because I sinned.

 

[AdamRaja]

Just for clarity; When you say that "Islam existed as long as the earth", do you mean that in the sense that there have always been those who are submissive to God?

No. The earth and humanity are a part of a test so that we can come out and know. Its part of evolution so we can grow even closer to God. So as long as intent of earth Islam also existed .

 

[AdamRaja]

The OP just treated me badly because I sinned.

Grow up. I don't treat anyone badly.

 

[AdamRaja]

Yet you call me, personally, a cancer... Because I sinned.

Nope. Never said the word sin. Your making ignorant conclusions based upon your own words.

 

[ChristineM]

The OP just treated me badly because I sinned.

The OP is not all muslims and does not represent all muslims

 

[AdamRaja]

Yes, we all possess the force of life. Why not just say that? Why go and try to redefine this force of life as 'God'? That's like those who define God as 'the universe'. We already have a perfectly good word for the universe and that's THE UNIVERSE. So let's stick with calling this force we all possess as simply LIFE.

You can call it whatever you like. As can I. Just sharing my beliefs here..

 

[AdamRaja]

Yet you call me, personally, a cancer... Because I sinned.

Seriously?
People believe like you. Not you personally.
lol wow .

 

[AdamRaja]

The OP is not all muslims and does not represent all muslims

Nor did I treat him badly. He's making a terrible attempt to make my religion look bad. Immaturity is fun in small doses though so I don't mind the banter.

 

[Mindmaster]

In Islam everyone is born a Muslim and it is his/hers parents (along with social circles) that bring the child away from Islam.

There are plenty of good reasons to leave any religion, I'm sure Islam isn't any more exempt than the others. Except most religions respect your idea to leave, Islam does not, lol.

 

[AdamRaja]

There are plenty of good reasons to leave any religion, I'm sure Islam isn't any more exempt than the others. Except most religions respect your idea to leave, Islam does not, lol.

Did Islam as a whole get a hold of you and ask you to say how they felt? Ill respect anyone Muslim or not.

 

[Dawnofhope]

I'm sure everyone will all agree that we are all born Muslim..
lol jk

In Islam everyone is born a Muslim and it is his/hers parents (along with social circles) that bring the child away from Islam.

The Prophet (saws) said that every child is born in Fitrah. In Islam this means a state of purity and connection to God.

When I say God I mean the ultimate force that gives us life not a bearded guy in the clouds.

In Islam it is not looked at as a religion but just the natural way of life. We are the worlds most looked down upon and knowing that raises me up.

I see where you are coming from. I agree we are all born with a connection to God, but that’s a statement of faith that needs to be explored and understood first. The words Islam and Muslim have a different meaning for you than they do for most people here. For what it’s worth I agree that what Muhammad intended and what Islam has become are very different. Unfortunately the religion Islam has strayed too far to be redeemed by its leaders or people.

 

[AdamRaja]

I see where you are coming from. I agree we are all born with a connection to God, but that’s a statement of faith that needs to be explored and understood first. The words Islam and Muslim have a different meaning for you than they do for most people here. For what it’s worth I agree that what Muhammad intended and what Islam has become are very different. Unfortunately the religion Islam has strayed too far to be redeemed by its leaders or people.

The words may mean different to people here but that's why I want to shine light on the actuality of it and not just what the news and google say.

 

[ChristineM]

Nor did I treat him badly. He's making a terrible attempt to make my religion look bad. Immaturity is fun in small doses though so I don't mind the banter.

That is your opinion, he has his opinion.

 

[AdamRaja]

That is your opinion, he has his opinion.

Ok. lol

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

The OP is not all muslims and does not represent all muslims

But he represents Islam - just as all religious people and atheists do when they post on public fora such as this. They're representatives of their beliefs, orthodoxies and philosophies even if they're not trying to convert anyone.

In Islam it is not looked at as a religion but just the natural way of life. We are the worlds most looked down upon and knowing that raises me up.

Then why are there no examples of it arising in the time before Muhammad? Why did the Greeks not adopt Islam? Why did Islam not arise independently in the Amazon or in Japan? Islam can claim what it likes but objectively the faith started with Muhammad

You can call it whatever you like. As can I. Just sharing my beliefs here..

And just as you're free to share your beliefs, others are free to challenge them. Especially when you make wild claims as to what other people believe or how they are born.

As you no doubt have guessed, I disagree with the claim in the OP and find it as believable as the notion that the genetic & physical diversity of humanity arose from a pair of genetically-identical twins reproducing.

 

[AdamRaja]

But he represents Islam - just as all religious people and atheists do when they post on public fora such as this. They're representatives of their beliefs, orthodoxies and philosophies even if they're not trying to convert anyone.




Then why are there no examples of it arising in the time before Muhammad? Why did the Greeks not adopt Islam? Why did Islam not arise independently in the Amazon or in Japan? Islam can claim what it likes but objectively the faith started with Muhammad




And just as you're free to share your beliefs, others are free to challenge them. Especially when you make wild claims as to what other people believe or how they are born.

As you no doubt have guessed, I disagree with the claim in the OP and find it as believable as the notion that the genetic & physical diversity of humanity arose from a pair of genetically-identical twins reproducing.

Obviously I knew these beliefs would be challenged. Made that clear in my first sentence.

 

[icehorse]

Or you've just misheard.

As @A Vestigial Mote said, the OP has an agenda, and many of your responders on this thread aren't buying it. Put another way, it strikes me that you're trying to usurp and occupy some common linguistic space, and I for one am not going to agree to it. Put yet another way, you don't get to make up your own definitions of words that are in common use.

 

[AdamRaja]

As @A Vestigial Mote said, the OP has an agenda, and many of your responders on this thread aren't buying it. Put another way, it strikes me that you're trying to usurp and occupy some common linguistic space, and I for one am not going to agree to it. Put yet another way, you don't get to make up your own definitions of words that are in common use.

Haha I have no agenda. Just sharing my beliefs like anyone else on this site. Yet the one Muslim has to have an agenda?