We gotta talk about Biden's press conference today

[Astravalon]

And yet, for all practical purposes, it's all you've got.

You are of course free to vote for Kennedy if you'd like, but if you take a realistic view of how elections work in the United States, you know that your candidate will not win -- one of the other two will.

And you will not have had a say into which of them that is. Is that really what you want?

If the ability to vote has any meaning to me, it's to vote for whom I want.
To vote for someone I don't want makes little sense. Why bother, then?

I've done that before, voting for the "lesser of two evils", and failed anyway.
I may as well have voted 3rd party that year (2016). Trump won anyway.
Yay, me.

I mean no offense to either of them, but neither Biden nor Trump are my
preferred candidates.

The reason my candidate likely won't win is because of the aforementioned
addiction to a two-parties-only mentality on the part of the majority of voters.

If enough people came to their senses and rejected the implied two-choice illusion,
then my candidate (or another 3rd-party candidate) likely would have a decent
chance at winning.

If "the system" decides, then I may as well not vote and just stay home.
(Probably work on getting that passport while I'm at it.)

However - and maybe this is what scares people - if a 3rd party candidate did,
technically, win, would the system allow that to become the final say? Or is the
voting system rigged in such a way that only one of the two main parties will
ever have a hope of winning?

Passport. Maybe I should vote for that.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

And his Detroit rally tonight? He absolutely aced it! Check it out.

 

[We Never Know]

And his Detroit rally tonight? He absolutely aced it! Check it out.

You hear 'if I win I am going to do this and this'

I think why haven't you already done that and that the last 3.5 years.

 

[Spice]

Introduced the Ukrainian leader Zelenskyy as Putin...
Refers to his Vice President as Trump...
Says he is going to follow the advice of his Commander-in-Chief..
All on the same day!

He has difficulty speaking. He has had difficulty speaking his entire life. Yes, he's older and his speech shows it, especially when he's on the clock. However, his ability to process the advice he receives from his cabinet and staff, his ability to understand how economic and foreign policy work, his understanding of the needs of American people, etc., there is so much more that qualifies him as the best option for the next 4 years other than his ability to be a smooth talker!

If for no other reason -- he supports NATO and NATO supports him.

 

[F1fan]

Introduced the Ukrainian leader Zelenskyy as Putin...
Refers to his Vice President as Trump...
Says he is going to follow the advice of his Commander-in-Chief..
All on the same day!

And still doing a more competent and lawful job than Trump ever did.

 

[crossfire]

Maybe a rule change should make a president from one party and a vice president from another.

Result?

It used to be that way. See Article II Section 1 of the original Constitution. (I knew Biden was old, but I didn't know he was that old. )

 

[Laniakea]

Evidence....

"I've been given a list of people to call on here."---Joe Biden at press conference.

He couldn't even decide for himself who to take questions from.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Here's a little question I think we might chew on: Which one of these candidates is facing calls from members of their own party to step aside in the presidential race: ► Is it the recently convicted felon, also indicted for election interference and mishandling classified documents, who was also found liable for sexual abuse and defamation as well as lying about his net worth to get loans tied to his massive real estate portfolio?​ ​ ► Or is it the incumbent president with a recent record of accomplishment in a bipartisan infrastructure law and the Inflation Reduction Act, which is a dubiously named piece of legislation that nonetheless addressed many of his party’s priorities, like climate change?​ Both men are well into retirement age. Both ramble through answers to questions when they bother to take them. Both mix up names. Neither took part in debates during a primary season in which they racked up wins. And yet one of the men, former President Donald Trump, 78, has been able to remake the entire Republican Party around his own divisive persona. The other, President Joe Biden, 81, has now spent weeks defiantly defending his fitness for the job, slowly emerging from a protective bubble at the White House after a disastrous debate and spotty subsequent interviews. So? What's your preference?

My preference is the one that dosent cause the nation and its states to plummet down on the freedom index if not free falling again already.

 

[We Never Know]

"I've been given a list of people to call on here."---Joe Biden at press conference.

He couldn't even decide for himself who to take questions from.

Yeah that struck me as odd. He was given a list of who to call on. Makes me wonder if they were scripted to the questions they could ask.

 

[Left Coast]

"I've been given a list of people to call on here."---Joe Biden at press conference.

He couldn't even decide for himself who to take questions from.

That's standard stuff. The journos in the room at a Presidential press conference are pre-screened and selected.

 

[Ebionite]

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[Guitar's Cry]

My preference is the one that dosent cause the nation and its states to plummet down on the freedom index if not free falling again already.

Different freedoms effect different folks. Whereas an owner of a papermill may not be free to pollute the Androscoggin river due to the Clean Water Act, this increases my freedom to fish and hike along that river.

I am far more concerned about the freedoms of my LGBTQ+ friends and family and the reproductive freedoms of female-bodied folks., as well as general voting rights and things like the ability to protest or even view pornography. I also put environmental protections as vitally important, since freedom requires good health and strong natural resources to enjoy it.

 

[Twilight Hue]

That's standard stuff. The journos in the room at a Presidential press conference are pre-screened and selected.

Barring/banning reporters by pre selection is arguably unconstitutional.

 

[metis]

Another one...

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Is there a conspiracy theory that you don't believe in? Twitter and Fox as reliable "sources"???

 

[metis]

And his Detroit rally tonight? He absolutely aced it! Check it out.

Yep, and I watched in from beginning to end and I feel the same way.

Yes, he "slips" at times but I'd rather have a president who may occasionally slip than a president as dishonest and self-serving as Trump clearly is. It begs the question how can so many in the religious right allow themselves to be conned by Trump? How is what he repeatedly says and does compatible with any religious or humanistic teachings? And yet we see so many elevate him over them. Ignorance and depravity have consequences.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

My preference is the one that dosent cause the nation and its states to plummet down on the freedom index if not free falling again already.

One needs a clearer understanding of what liberty really is, how it is achieved, and how it can really be lost.

“Liberty, next to religion, has been the motive of good deeds and the common pretext of crime, from the sowing of the seed at Athens, two thousand four hundred and sixty years ago, until the ripened harvest was gathered by men of our race. It is the delicate fruit of a mature civilisation; and scarcely a century has passed since nations, that knew the meaning of the term, resolved to be free. In every age its progress has been beset by its natural enemies, by ignorance and superstitution, by lust of conquest and by love of ease, by the strong man’s craving for power, and the poor man’s craving for food. During long intervals it has been utterly arrested, when nations were being rescued from barbarism and from the grasp of strangers, and when the perpetual struggle for existence, depriving men of all interest and understanding in politics, has made them eager to sell their birthright for a pottage, and ignorant of the treasure they resigned. At all times sincere friends of freedom have been rare, and its triumphs have been due to minorities, that have prevailed by associating themselves with auxiliaries whose objects often differed from their own; and this association, which is always dangerous, has been sometimes disastrous, by giving to opponents just grounds of opposition, and by kindling dispute over the spoils in the hour of success. No obstacle has been so constant, or so difficult to overcome, as uncertainty and confusion touching the nature of true liberty. If hostile interests have wrought much injury, false ideas have wrought still more; and its advance is recorded in the increase of knowledge, as much as in the improvement of laws. The history of institutions is often a history of deception and illusions; for their virtue depends on the ideas that produce and on the spirit that preserves them, and the form may remain unaltered when the substance has passed away.”​

'The History of Freedom in Antiquity,' Lord Acton​

An address given to the members of the ​

Bridgenorth Institute, 26 February, 1877​

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[Evangelicalhumanist]

Yeah that struck me as odd. He was given a list of who to call on. Makes me wonder if they were scripted to the questions they could ask.

I think if you had listened to the questions asked, you would not think they were scripted. They were tough, personal questions for him to answer, and there weren't nearly enough about US foreign policy, which he answers easily.

 

[Copernicus]

Barring/banning reporters by pre selection is arguably unconstitutional.

Can you cite anything in the Constitution to support your assertion? Biden's list contained reporters who had asked him tough questions in the past, and every single one on the list asked him to defend his candidacy in light of his disastrous debate performance.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Can you cite anything in the Constitution to support your assertion? Biden's list contained reporters who had asked him tough questions in the past, and every single one on the list asked him to defend his candidacy.

Actually this same argument on the constitutionality of limiting reporters has actually been a left-wing concern of which they howled to the Moon about it over and over again.

Yet now they're doing it themselves unconstitutional like the massive hypocrites they really are , and it really wasn't that long ago in terms of past administrations involving a particular president.

I'll be glad to jog your (and others) memory a bit on the matter....

Trump Bar on Reporters Almost Certainly Unconstitutional | American Civil Liberties Union

In response to reports that the White House office of the press secretary, Sean M. Spicer, today barred entry at a press briefing to reporters from The...

www.aclu.org

How easy people forget, but look on the bright side, such as a bright side can be, is that it is a completely bipartisan massive middle finger to the Constitution. So we can all wallow in this big wet puddle of **** together.

 

[Ebionite]

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Is there a conspiracy theory that you don't believe in? Twitter and Fox as reliable "sources"???

Like the conspiracy theory that Fox faked the video to make Biden look mad, you mean?