Buddha Dharma
Dharma Practitioner
Anyone else notice this odd little double standard in our political discourse? Primarily, it seems to come from the right side of the aisle- more often than not.
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"We have to protect the children!" (disclaimer: may not apply to LGBT, female, Muslim, etc kids)
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Buddha Dharma
Dharma Practitioner
The Kilted Heathen
Crow FreyjasmaðR
It comes from the left as well. It's all about the children in regards to their agendas (gun control, for example.) Children are powerful pawns in political games. Either you garner sympathetic support, or you demonize your enemy as hating children.
And regarding military adventurism, it's all about "women & children", with this coming from both sides.
Now, imagine the following in the voice of Jackie Mason....
What are we men...chopped liver?
Buddha Dharma
Dharma Practitioner
Is it bad to expect the government to protect the well being and rights of children just as much as it does adults? This says very little to the title of this thread though, or to this:
You have no thoughts about the right's selectiveness on what children deserve protecting, and which deserve contempt- even legal prosecution? Yet they're the first to scream 'children' in debates about transitioning or pornography.
The Kilted Heathen
Crow FreyjasmaðR
No, but the latter half of my post (which you omitted) did. The first half was pointing out that it comes from both ends of the spectrum, rather than "primarily from the right" as your OP sets up.
Care to provide some references to the 'comes from the left' statement?
Buddha Dharma
Dharma Practitioner
I omitted it because I didn't find that it really spoke too much to the issue. More like attempted to level the two parties as equally bad, where it is again undue.
The Kilted Heathen
Crow FreyjasmaðR
Michael Regan noted that it's used by both Democrats and Republicans. President Clinton used the phrase in his address to the International Labour Conference. For anything past that, just go to Facebook and friend a bunch of Liberals.
The Kilted Heathen
Crow FreyjasmaðR
What issue? Your opening statement just asks if anyone has noticed the use, and lays it at the feet of the Right.
YmirGF
Bodhisattva in Recovery
You make it sound like people are saying "We have to protect the White Christian kids." When I've ever heard the comment I've always read it to mean children in general. Duh!
For the record, using "clock boy" as an example is pretty lame due to the circumstances behind the story. It was clearly a setup and everything the family has done since then supports that it was done to garner a reaction.
Why use those names (posted in the title) or stop there?
Right, left, of what does that matter? The failure always lies in the delusion that we are anything but humans with similar problems so we should stop subtracting the ones we don't like and start adding everyone into our consideration.
Humans are self-important though by nature, which is a pretty arrogant position for a thing that is predominately made of food, has an ego-mind complex shaped by the accidents of their life, and pretends they have some sort of choice in the way they act and it isn't some reflex in regard to past experiences. The crux in all these problems is the artificial delusions we call our opinions or beliefs and our need to see things as this or that and be infuriated whenever someone offends the magic trick we play on ourselves every day. As if the offenders even knew what they were doing to us in the first place!
Our political system is designed to keep us chasing shiny little items around like a monkey and when we are provoked throw our **** on people whom will not play our version of the game. The only way to win is to not play, realize it is a trick, and forgive and forget. Any other action takes us away from being tolerant and considerate to others naturally.
Wherever you decide to draw the lines, you're wrong - focus on any identities you'd like, and you're still wrong. But, it's pretty easy to get away from this and do the right thing.
The examples I see.
I see teens that bully other kids as something learned from their parents. LGBT bullying, sadly can come from their own conservative parents.
Muslim Schoolchildren Bullied By Fellow Students And Teachers
LGBT Youth | Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender Health | CDC
sandy whitelinger
Veteran Member
How did children even become this important. They can barely take care of themselves. They're untrained and fun to replace.
Kangaroo Feathers
Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...
What children do liberals omit from their protection arguments?
Kangaroo Feathers
Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...
An excellent jaw to the fist!
The Kilted Heathen
Crow FreyjasmaðR
Not a point that I touched on, at all.
Kangaroo Feathers
Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...
Yet it's the point of the thread. Right there in the title.
The problem is that fervent partisans will see sins on their foe far more than their own.
Those of us who see the same tactics & faults on both sides will be a tiny minority.
Which side is more prone to this....
I don't know.
But I see in from the left too.