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We know Armageddon is earthwide, so why does the Bible say it is at Megiddo?

capumetu

Active Member
The Bible of course was written to and for God's people to prepare them for current events, or prophetically for future events. When John penned the word Armageddon, Jehovah's people were very familiar of the many battles that had been fought in the area of Megiddo. Jehovah directly had intervened in battles there.

It is noteworthy that the battle of Armageddon will result in the destruction of God's enemies, but the salvation of those who love God. People of God will not fight in this battle, the Bible shows that Jesus and his powerful angels will be the ones who fight this battle. 2 Thes 1:6-9
 

viole

Ontological Naturalist
Premium Member
The Bible of course was written to and for God's people to prepare them for current events, or prophetically for future events. When John penned the word Armageddon, Jehovah's people were very familiar of the many battles that had been fought in the area of Megiddo. Jehovah directly had intervened in battles there.

It is noteworthy that the battle of Armageddon will result in the destruction of God's enemies, but the salvation of those who love God. People of God will not fight in this battle, the Bible shows that Jesus and his powerful angels will be the ones who fight this battle. 2 Thes 1:6-9
With "we", do you mean people who believe that stuff? If that is the case, I would put this on some Christian DIR, or whatever.

You seem so certain about this Armageddon thing, and Jehovah doing this or that, that you neglect how likely it is that this is only mythology made up by ancient people without a clue.

So, I would not take it too seriously, nor lose my sleep over it, if I were you.

Ciao

- viole
 

capumetu

Active Member
With "we", do you mean people who believe that stuff? If that is the case, I would put this on some Christian DIR, or whatever.

You seem so certain about this Armageddon thing, and Jehovah doing this or that, that you neglect how likely it is that this is only mythology made up by ancient people without a clue.

So, I would not take it too seriously, nor lose my sleep over it, if I were you.

Ciao

- viole

Lose sleep maam? We pray for it to come, likely you have as well.
 

Brickjectivity

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
With "we", do you mean people who believe that stuff? If that is the case, I would put this on some Christian DIR, or whatever.

You seem so certain about this Armageddon thing, and Jehovah doing this or that, that you neglect how likely it is that this is only mythology made up by ancient people without a clue.

So, I would not take it too seriously, nor lose my sleep over it, if I were you.

Ciao

- viole
Its too controversial for a dir, but there are ways to limit the participants if desired.
 

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
To people of early biblical times the known world was a very small place.
Myths legends and prophecy were always based on known places in heaven or earth.
It is reasonable for them to set Armageddon as to happen at a known religious battleground.
 

Dave Watchman

Active Member
The Bible of course was written to and for God's people to prepare them for current events, or prophetically for future events. When John penned the word Armageddon, Jehovah's people were very familiar of the many battles that had been fought in the area of Megiddo. Jehovah directly had intervened in battles there.

Thanks for the question, it gives me something to think about.

I also wonder, or suspect, that some of the scenes in Revelation describe events that God's People are not participants of.

Like these events describing Armageddon.

Like the events included in the vials.

It is noteworthy that the battle of Armageddon will result in the destruction of God's enemies, but the salvation of those who love God. People of God will not fight in this battle, the Bible shows that Jesus and his powerful angels will be the ones who fight this battle. 2 Thes 1:6-9

I think Armageddon will result in the physical death of God's human enemies alive on earth at that time, but Satan and his angels will remain alive to witness the results of their actions.

I agree, "People of God will not fight in this battle.

So why does the Bible say it is at Tel Megiddo?

Arial view of Tel Megiddo:

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It doesn't really look big enough to have a "pride" parade like the one they have in Tel Aviv.

I tend to consider this is like you say: "Jehovah directly had intervened in battles there.

I don't see this like the old Hal Lindsey model where the Great River Euphrates actually dries up, and the Kings from the east are the Asian Armies.

People are not going to be able to just sit back and watch this on video news channels.

I tend to think this is happening, or unfolding now, in a symbolic fashion.

"And the demonic spirits gathered all the rulers and their armies to a place with the Hebrew name Armageddon .​

It's not just any battle, but the ultimate battle, of every single living person alive in the world, against God when He Arrives.

My understanding, which is still unfolding and due for a major edit, is that the assembly for this battle has begun.

I'll stick my neck out here and show what might be a glimpse, or an example of the kings of the earth gathering the people to fight against God.

An example of Paul's falling away that eventually results with Armageddon, all the tribes of the Earth, at war with God:

1) The Netherlands (2000)
2) Belgium (2003)
3) Canada (2005)
4) Spain (2005)
5) South Africa (2006)
6) Norway (2009)
7) Sweden (2009)
8) Argentina (2010)
9) Iceland (2010)
10) Portugal (2010)
11) Denmark (2012)
12) Brazil (2013)
13) England and Wales (2013)
14) France (2013)
15) New Zealand (2013)
16) Uruguay (2013)
17) Luxembourg (2014)
18) Scotland (2014)
19) Finland: (signed 2015, effective 2017)
20) Ireland: (2015)
21) United States: (2015)<-------1290 days------->Sun/Moon.
21) United States: (2015)<-------1290 days------->EofW.


This list ended with an event which God in Leviticus calls an abomination, separated by 1290 days, which was punctuated by a solar eclipse and a moon which did not give it's light

Armageddon won't culminate until Christ's Second Visitation, but the hall is chosen, and the chairs are rented.

I suspect we wait for a few more guests, some of our brothers and our fellow servants have been delayed.

The show can't begin without them:

CN0Yrrn.jpg


Peaceful Sabbath.
 
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cataway

Well-Known Member
Megiddo ..... a seriously one sided action taken against those that will appose the kingdom
 

Brickjectivity

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
I didn't know it worked like that. It's a Christian topic intended for Christians to discuss surely?
Yes. In areas marked Dir conversation people aren't supposed to correct each other and to only provide their own views. Starting a debate in a Dir usually gets a thread either moved or deleted and generates a rule 10 warning conversation from a staff member. The problem is that feelings are very---very strong about some things. It can easily get as hot or hotter than a political argument, and then people don't feel safe in their own Dir. We can try to let things go, but technically even saying "I think you're wrong" is not allowed in a Dir. Instead everything has to be practically Oriental. "Fascinating opinion. What I think on that topic is..." Also in a Dir the only people allowed to have opinions must say they are in the said religion. So anyone posting an opinion on a Christian topic in a Christian Dir should be a Christian or should not post that opinion there and should post it in a debate area. Respectful inquiries are the exception.
 
The Bible of course was written to and for God's people to prepare them for current events, or prophetically for future events. When John penned the word Armageddon, Jehovah's people were very familiar of the many battles that had been fought in the area of Megiddo. Jehovah directly had intervened in battles there.

It is noteworthy that the battle of Armageddon will result in the destruction of God's enemies, but the salvation of those who love God. People of God will not fight in this battle, the Bible shows that Jesus and his powerful angels will be the ones who fight this battle. 2 Thes 1:6-9
I believe that the actual meaning of the word Meggido is place of or gathering of troops and I agree it is used in a symbolic sense because so many decisive battles occurred there and according to scripture the final battle will certainly be decisive.
As recent as 1918 it was the scene of the defeat of Turkish forces by the British under General Allenby.
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
Don't take biblical prophecy and history literally. At best it's metaphorical and symbolical.
 

McBell

Unbound

SeekingAllTruth

Well-Known Member
Thanks for the question, it gives me something to think about.

I also wonder, or suspect, that some of the scenes in Revelation describe events that God's People are not participants of.

Like these events describing Armageddon.

Like the events included in the vials.



I think Armageddon will result in the physical death of God's human enemies alive on earth at that time, but Satan and his angels will remain alive to witness the results of their actions.

I agree, "People of God will not fight in this battle.

So why does the Bible say it is at Tel Megiddo?

Arial view of Tel Megiddo:

%D7%AA%D7%9C_%D7%9E%D7%92%D7%99%D7%93%D7%95.JPG


It doesn't really look big enough to have a "pride" parade like the one they have in Tel Aviv.

I tend to consider this is like you say: "Jehovah directly had intervened in battles there.

I don't see this like the old Hal Lindsey model where the Great River Euphrates actually dries up, and the Kings from the east are the Asian Armies.

People are not going to be able to just sit back and watch this on video news channels.

I tend to think this is happening, or unfolding now, in a symbolic fashion.

"And the demonic spirits gathered all the rulers and their armies to a place with the Hebrew name Armageddon .​

It's not just any battle, but the ultimate battle, of every single living person alive in the world, against God when He Arrives.

My understanding, which is still unfolding and due for a major edit, is that the assembly for this battle has begun.

I'll stick my neck out here and show what might be a glimpse, or an example of the kings of the earth gathering the people to fight against God.

An example of Paul's falling away that eventually results with Armageddon, all the tribes of the Earth, at war with God:

1) The Netherlands (2000)
2) Belgium (2003)
3) Canada (2005)
4) Spain (2005)
5) South Africa (2006)
6) Norway (2009)
7) Sweden (2009)
8) Argentina (2010)
9) Iceland (2010)
10) Portugal (2010)
11) Denmark (2012)
12) Brazil (2013)
13) England and Wales (2013)
14) France (2013)
15) New Zealand (2013)
16) Uruguay (2013)
17) Luxembourg (2014)
18) Scotland (2014)
19) Finland: (signed 2015, effective 2017)
20) Ireland: (2015)
21) United States: (2015)<-------1290 days------->Sun/Moon.
21) United States: (2015)<-------1290 days------->EofW.


This list ended with an event which God in Leviticus calls an abomination, separated by 1290 days, which was punctuated by a solar eclipse and a moon which did not give it's light

Armageddon won't culminate until Christ's Second Visitation, but the hall is chosen, and the chairs are rented.

I suspect we wait for a few more guests, some of our brothers and our fellow servants have been delayed.

The show can't begin without them:

CN0Yrrn.jpg


Peaceful Sabbath.

People are making tons of money writing books and making videos about this stuff. That's the beauty of prophecy. It never happens so you can continue writing book after book on the topic with glossy covers for effect like Hal Lindsey did and make boatloads of cash until you die. Here's one of my favorites. "Battle-tested strategies" you need to know to prepare for battle, lololol.
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capumetu

Active Member
To people of early biblical times the known world was a very small place.
Myths legends and prophecy were always based on known places in heaven or earth.
It is reasonable for them to set Armageddon as to happen at a known religious battleground.

I agree Terry, nice insight
 
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