Weirdest war ever?

[Nimos]

Is it just me or is the Ukrainian and Russia war extremely weird?

To me it seems like a mixture of Russia attacking a country, but at the same time, I don't think any war have ever included so many civilian people and companies almost directly involved.

There are civilians travelling from varies other countries to go help Ukraine, but also we see companies actively trying to influence the war on behalf of Ukraine, you have a civilian hackers also involved in trying to hack the Russians. I can't recall anything like this before? Normally its one or more countries vs others. But this seems to be more or less whoever feels like they can help the Ukrainians in whatever way they see fit.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Is it just me or is the Ukrainian and Russia war extremely weird?

To me it seems like a mixture of Russia attacking a country, but at the same time, I don't think any war have ever included so many civilian people and companies almost directly involved.

There are civilians travelling from varies other countries to go help Ukraine, but also we see companies actively trying to influence the war on behalf of Ukraine, you have a civilian hackers also involved in trying to hack the Russians. I can't recall anything like this before? Normally its one or more countries vs others. But this seems to be more or less whoever feels like they can help the Ukrainians in whatever way they see fit.

I hear very little about the progress on the war. How well or bad things are going. That's weird as well. There's a few reports but not many. Seems like the invasion has stalled and Putin isn't doing very much now.

It's all focused on the political arena.

 

[InChrist]

Is it just me or is the Ukrainian and Russia war extremely weird?

To me it seems like a mixture of Russia attacking a country, but at the same time, I don't think any war have ever included so many civilian people and companies almost directly involved.

There are civilians travelling from varies other countries to go help Ukraine, but also we see companies actively trying to influence the war on behalf of Ukraine, you have a civilian hackers also involved in trying to hack the Russians. I can't recall anything like this before? Normally its one or more countries vs others. But this seems to be more or less whoever feels like they can help the Ukrainians in whatever way they see fit.

It is certainly weird. Doesn’t it make you wonder what is really going on?

Proof That Something Is Very Wrong About What We Are Being Told

Then that story about the Russians destroying the Holocaust memorial which went viral... was false. So how much can we trust the media for any truth?


Babi Yar Holocaust Memorial “Unscathed” According to Israeli Journalist

 

[Trailblazer]

Is it just me or is the Ukrainian and Russia war extremely weird?

To me it seems like a mixture of Russia attacking a country, but at the same time, I don't think any war have ever included so many civilian people and companies almost directly involved.

There are civilians travelling from varies other countries to go help Ukraine, but also we see companies actively trying to influence the war on behalf of Ukraine, you have a civilian hackers also involved in trying to hack the Russians. I can't recall anything like this before? Normally its one or more countries vs others. But this seems to be more or less whoever feels like they can help the Ukrainians in whatever way they see fit.

It is different from wars of the past. This is all in fulfillment of what Baha'u'llah prophesied, that people will come together in unity. Look at how unified people are against Putin, helping the Ukrainians. The world has never before been this unified.

 

[metis]

It is certainly weird. Doesn’t it make you wonder what is really going on?

Proof That Something Is Very Wrong About What We Are Being Told

Are you aware that the link has a right-wing political affiliation?

 

[nPeace]

Is it just me or is the Ukrainian and Russia war extremely weird?

To me it seems like a mixture of Russia attacking a country, but at the same time, I don't think any war have ever included so many civilian people and companies almost directly involved.

There are civilians travelling from varies other countries to go help Ukraine, but also we see companies actively trying to influence the war on behalf of Ukraine, you have a civilian hackers also involved in trying to hack the Russians. I can't recall anything like this before? Normally its one or more countries vs others. But this seems to be more or less whoever feels like they can help the Ukrainians in whatever way they see fit.

Interesting observation.
I have my take on it, which I am sure of 100%, but you wouldn't believe it.
I'll share anyway.
Man wants peace. Yet they fight and can't live side by side, and share land, food, water, and air..
Many would rather take a weapon to hand, and maim, or kill someone they never even met... even if it's some 19 year old youth, who hasn't 'seen a star pitch"... a fellowman.
Why is peace so hard to achieve when it's what man wants?
The answer is found in the Bible
I think if we open our eyes we will see it is clearly true, but the reason the Bible gives, is the same for why the world can't see it.

 

[nPeace]

I hear very little about the progress on the war. How well or bad things are going. That's weird as well. There's a few reports but not many. Seems like the invasion has stalled and Putin isn't doing very much now.

It's all focused on the political arena.

Putin seems to be working out a strategy. He needs to cut off access from the West of Ukraine. Until then, he may appear stalled.
At least, that seems to be the case.
NATO Countries Pour Weapons Into Ukraine, Risking Conflict With Russia

 

[nPeace]

It is different from wars of the past. This is all in fulfillment of what Baha'u'llah prophesied, that people will come together in unity. Look at how unified people are against Putin, helping the Ukrainians. The world has never before been this unified.

That's Bahaullah's prophecy? Are you certain? How certain?

 

[exchemist]

Is it just me or is the Ukrainian and Russia war extremely weird?

To me it seems like a mixture of Russia attacking a country, but at the same time, I don't think any war have ever included so many civilian people and companies almost directly involved.

There are civilians travelling from varies other countries to go help Ukraine, but also we see companies actively trying to influence the war on behalf of Ukraine, you have a civilian hackers also involved in trying to hack the Russians. I can't recall anything like this before? Normally its one or more countries vs others. But this seems to be more or less whoever feels like they can help the Ukrainians in whatever way they see fit.

Well, if you think about it, this is the first European war in the information age.

Every major war differs from the previous ones, which is why the generals usually screw up at the beginning, until they work out how to adapt to what has changed since the last one. In this case, military action against a nuclear-armed state is an absolute last resort, whereas we can all see what is going on, there is unanimous revulsion against it, and we have a far more interconnected and IT-dependent world than ever before, which makes economic and other means of striking back far more powerful. So that enables a far wider and faster variety of responses.

Whether they will deter Putin or lead to his removal is another story.

 

[Trailblazer]

That's Bahaullah's prophecy? Are you certain? How certain?

Absolutely certain.

“We desire but the good of the world and the happiness of the nations; yet they deem Us a stirrer up of strife and sedition worthy of bondage and banishment…. That all nations should become one in faith and all men as brothers; that the bonds of affection and unity between the sons of men should be strengthened; that diversity of religion should cease, and differences of race be annulled—what harm is there in this?… Yet so it shall be; these fruitless strifes, these ruinous wars shall pass away, and the ‘Most Great Peace’ shall come…. Yet do We see your kings and rulers lavishing their treasures more freely on means for the destruction of the human race than on that which would conduce to the happiness of mankind…. These strifes and this bloodshed and discord must cease, and all men be as one kindred and one family…. Let not a man glory in this, that he loves his country; let him rather glory in this, that he loves his kind….” Proclamation of Bahá’u’lláh, p. ix

 

[exchemist]

It is certainly weird. Doesn’t it make you wonder what is really going on?

Proof That Something Is Very Wrong About What We Are Being Told

Then that story about the Russians destroying the Holocaust memorial which went viral... was false. So how much can we trust the media for any truth?


Babi Yar Holocaust Memorial “Unscathed” According to Israeli Journalist

Do you actually believe this ****?

 

[exchemist]

It is different from wars of the past. This is all in fulfillment of what Baha'u'llah prophesied, that people will come together in unity. Look at how unified people are against Putin, helping the Ukrainians. The world has never before been this unified.

Are you sure? I think it was about as well unified against Nazi Germany, wasn't it?

 

[Nimos]

I hear very little about the progress on the war. How well or bad things are going. That's weird as well. There's a few reports but not many. Seems like the invasion has stalled and Putin isn't doing very much now.

It's all focused on the political arena.

The last I have heard, obviously not 100% certain if its true, is that the US say that the Ukrainian have blown up some bridges and some of the convoy heading to Kiev, which is causing the Russian some issues. Also that they might have some logistic issues.

Also heard that they used some cluster bombs, but again not sure if that is true either.

 

[amorphous_constellation]

Is it just me or is the Ukrainian and Russia war extremely weird?

Well, yes. I can't seem to get to the center of what this is about. The military tactics, (though I was never in military) seem ostensibly not to make sense, or various things about them seem inexplicable. Putin calls for the 'de-nazification' of Ukraine? But the troops say there were tricked into going? Running out of food? Gas? Paratroopers being sent into the ocean to freeze? Shelling around a nuclear power plant??? A huge stalled line of tanks? (is that what I read?). Thinly veiled sabre rattling to use nukes? The snake island story? (is that true or false?)

Over the past couple weeks of looking at this, I have been sickened, angered, mystified, and perhaps led into states of incredulity, yes.

 

[Nimos]

It is certainly weird. Doesn’t it make you wonder what is really going on?

Proof That Something Is Very Wrong About What We Are Being Told

Then that story about the Russians destroying the Holocaust memorial which went viral... was false. So how much can we trust the media for any truth?


Babi Yar Holocaust Memorial “Unscathed” According to Israeli Journalist

Just looking at this quickly and I guess it was only a matter of time before the conspiracy theories would come

Media makes mistakes and sometimes report wrong things and even unconfirmed things, no one disagree about that and it is an issue with the press, news moves fast and sometimes to fast. This is from BBC about the Babi Yar memorial site:

Tuesday afternoon's missile attack, which was targeting a nearby TV tower, killed five civilians.

Staff were initially unable to access the Babyn Yar site to assess the damage. However, it is now known that the most iconic memorials in the park are unscathed. These include a large menorah, newly built synagogue and a monument honouring the Soviet citizens and prisoners of war who died, which is located closest to the TV tower.

A museum building which was not yet in use caught fire, and there is damage across the 140-acre site, such as burnt and uprooted trees, the BBC has been told.

Im sorry, I really don't care about conspiracy theories in the middle of this, people are going to make them and some will buy into them. Im not one of them There are enough uncertainties about what is going on in the war already, I don't think adding, DaMilitaryExperz99 on some random website as a reliable source is going to make things better.

 

[74x12]

Is it just me or is the Ukrainian and Russia war extremely weird?

To me it seems like a mixture of Russia attacking a country, but at the same time, I don't think any war have ever included so many civilian people and companies almost directly involved.

There are civilians travelling from varies other countries to go help Ukraine, but also we see companies actively trying to influence the war on behalf of Ukraine, you have a civilian hackers also involved in trying to hack the Russians. I can't recall anything like this before? Normally its one or more countries vs others. But this seems to be more or less whoever feels like they can help the Ukrainians in whatever way they see fit.

Well we've never had a major war in this age where everything is interconnected. It's the weaponisation of private sector. Economic warfare. You might think it's good to use against Russia but it can be turned against anyone who resists the NWO.

But the economic warfare is dangerous for the West as well. We could see the entire global economy collapse.

Russia has switched to gold backed currency; to shore up their own failing currency(because of sanctions) and also to damage the petro-dollar. If China joins in (and they are planning too and saving up gold in order to do so) then the dollar could be in serious trouble. Other countries will likely follow suit.

 

[Nimos]

It is different from wars of the past. This is all in fulfillment of what Baha'u'llah prophesied, that people will come together in unity. Look at how unified people are against Putin, helping the Ukrainians. The world has never before been this unified.

Well be careful, because in 10 years if you are wrong, that also means that Baha'u'llah were as well or that people as expected have no clue regarding these predictions because they are as vague as they are

 

[Nimos]

Interesting observation.
I have my take on it, which I am sure of 100%, but you wouldn't believe it.
I'll share anyway.
Man wants peace. Yet they fight and can't live side by side, and share land, food, water, and air..
Many would rather take a weapon to hand, and maim, or kill someone they never even met... even if it's some 19 year old youth, who hasn't 'seen a star pitch"... a fellowman.
Why is peace so hard to achieve when it's what man wants?
The answer is found in the Bible
I think if we open our eyes we will see it is clearly true, but the reason the Bible gives, is the same for why the world can't see it.

It only take a very few people or person to start a war, the rest just follows like sheep's

 

[Nimos]

Well, if you think about it, this is the first European war in the information age.

Every major war differs from the previous ones, which is why the generals usually screw up at the beginning, until they work out how to adapt to what has changed since the last one. In this case, military action against a nuclear-armed state is an absolute last resort, whereas we can all see what is going on, there is unanimous revulsion against it, and we have a far more interconnected and IT-dependent world than ever before, which makes economic and other means of striking back far more powerful. So that enables a far wider and faster variety of responses.

Whether they will deter Putin or lead to his removal is another story.

Agree, this is very much a modern war. But still having random civilians hacking a country is rather unusual I think

 

[Nimos]

Well, yes. I can't seem to get to the center of what this is about. The military tactics, (though I was never in military) seem ostensibly not to make sense, or various things about them seem inexplicable. Putin calls for the 'de-nazification' of Ukraine? But the troops say there were tricked into going? Running out of food? Gas? Paratroopers being sent into the ocean to freeze? Shelling around a power plant??? A huge stalled line of tanks? (is that what I read?). Thinly veiled sabre rattling to use nukes? The snake island story? (is that true or false?)

Over the past couple weeks of looking at this, I have been sickened, angered, mystified, and perhaps led into states of incredulity, yes.

To me without being an expert of any kind in military tactics, it very much seem like none of this went as Putin imagined it would, I think he underestimated the Ukrainians and that they would quickly collapse, that the EU would be months about reacting and it would end in more or less chaos and "be" over before the west could react in any serious way. So to me it looks like a lot of things didn't go as planned.