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Weirdest war ever?

InChrist

Free4ever
I'm not interested in watching your video, so do you care to tell us who this guy claims owns, say, the BBC or the CBC?
Blackrock and Vanguard


“If we look closer, we can clearly see coordinated actions by the BBC-led Trusted News Initiative, various Scientific Technological Elite, large financial groups (such as Vanguard, BlackRock and State Street), and the World Economic Forum acting in real time to suppress a growing awareness by the general public of having been actively manipulated. ”
Propaganda, Corporatism, and the Hidden Global Coup


“In addition to The New York Times, Vanguard and BlackRock are also the top two owners of Time Warner, Comcast, Disney and News Corp, four of the six media companiesthat control more than 90% of the U.S. media landscape.

Needless to say, if you have control of this many news outlets, you can control entire nations by way of carefully orchestrated and organized centralized propaganda disguised as journalism.”

Who Owns Big Pharma + Big Media? You’ll Never Guess.
 

InChrist

Free4ever
Didn't you notice that your link not only didn't provide any evidence, but that it didn't even give one example?

BTW, you might look at the thread I started on "Reality".
No, I didn’t notice that, as I thought the video gave numerous examples and plenty of evidence and/or info to look up evidence.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Blackrock and Vanguard


“If we look closer, we can clearly see coordinated actions by the BBC-led Trusted News Initiative, various Scientific Technological Elite, large financial groups (such as Vanguard, BlackRock and State Street), and the World Economic Forum acting in real time to suppress a growing awareness by the general public of having been actively manipulated. ”
Propaganda, Corporatism, and the Hidden Global Coup


“In addition to The New York Times, Vanguard and BlackRock are also the top two owners of Time Warner, Comcast, Disney and News Corp, four of the six media companiesthat control more than 90% of the U.S. media landscape.

Needless to say, if you have control of this many news outlets, you can control entire nations by way of carefully orchestrated and organized centralized propaganda disguised as journalism.”

Who Owns Big Pharma + Big Media? You’ll Never Guess.
That's weird because when I clicked on it the first time, that page didn't show up.

The article is clearly right-wing trash with a historical anti-Semitic dog whistle [Rothchilds reference].
 
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InChrist

Free4ever
That's weird because when I clicked on it the first time, that page didn't show up.

The article is clearly right-wing trash with a historical anti-Semitic dog whistle [Rothchilds reference].
I don’t think a reference to the Rothchilds is always necessarily an indication of anti-Semitism. I definitely oppose anything anti-Semitic.
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
What's the difference between "unified" and "unified"?
I don't think there were as many countries that were unified against the Nazis as are unified against what Putin is doing in the Ukraine. All of the 30 NATO countries are allied against the war in the Ukraine.

The Allies, later known formally as the United Nations, were an international military coalition formed during the Second World War (1939–1945) to oppose the Axis powers, led by Nazi Germany, Imperial Japan, and Fascist Italy. Its principal members by 1941 were the United Kingdom, United States, Soviet Union, and China.

Membership in the Allies varied during the course of the war. When the conflict broke out on 1 September 1939, the Allied coalition consisted of the United Kingdom, France, and Poland, as well as their respective dependencies, such as British India. They were soon joined by the independent dominions of the British Commonwealth: Canada, Australia, New Zealand and South Africa. Consequently, the initial alliance largely resembled that of the First World War.

Allies of World War II - Wikipedia

How is NATO responding to Russia?

The Alliance calls on Russia to immediately cease its military assault, to withdraw all its forces from Ukraine and to turn back from the path of aggression it has chosen. This page contains information on NATO and its relationship with Ukraine and the latest news on NATO and Allies' responses to the ongoing crisis.3 days ago

Topic: NATO's response to Russia's invasion of Ukraine
 

nPeace

Veteran Member
No, not yet, but Baha'u'llah did not say when world peace would be established. However, He did say this:

“The One true God beareth Me witness, and His creatures will testify, that not for a moment did I allow Myself to be hidden from the eyes of men, nor did I consent to shield My person from their injury. Before the face of all men I have arisen, and bidden them fulfil My pleasure. My object is none other than the betterment of the world and the tranquillity of its peoples. The well-being of mankind, its peace and security, are unattainable unless and until its unity is firmly established. This unity can never be achieved so long as the counsels which the Pen of the Most High hath revealed are suffered to pass unheeded.” Gleanings From the Writings of Bahá’u’lláh, p. 286
So then, your claim that Bahaullah prophesied unity against Ukraine was false.

You do know that Bahallah proved himself to be a false prophet, by taking the prophecies recorded in the Bible, and claiming them to be his, right?
Or is that what Bahais are doing?
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
So then, your claim that Bahaullah prophesied unity against Ukraine was false.
I was incorrect when I said that He prophesied that. My friend @Truthseeker explained that to me.

He said:
No. I think you put your foot into your mouth. There's not anything about nations unifying against any country in a war. Shoghi Effendi or 'Abdu'l-Baha didn't anything like this either, I'm sure of it.

Sorry, looking at your thread, you clarified that you meant people coming together in unity. Baha'u'llah did say the "Most Great Peace" would come. Of course there is no peace now. Unified in this way is not being unified, because it doesn't include Russia, nor is it peace.

You do know that Bahallah proved himself to be a false prophet, by taking the prophecies recorded in the Bible, and claiming them to be his, right?
Or is that what Bahais are doing?
Quite the contrary. Baha'u'llah did not claim any Bible prophecies that refer to Jesus but He claimed a few that refer to the Comforter and the Spirit of truth, since that is who He was.

Baha'u'llah fulfilled all the Bible prophecies that refer to the return of Christ and the Messiah and these prophecies are continuing to be fulfilled every day.

Jesus never promised to return to earth, not even once in the New Testament. This is a false belief that Christians hold because they have misinterpreted the Bible. Any work that Jesus had to do in this world ended when He left this world, but Christians cannot reality so they believe Jesus is coming back in spite of what Jesus said.

John 14:19 Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also.

John 17:11 And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.

John 17:4 I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do.

John 19:30 When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.
 

nPeace

Veteran Member
I was incorrect when I said that He prophesied that. My friend @Truthseeker explained that to me.

He said:
No. I think you put your foot into your mouth. There's not anything about nations unifying against any country in a war. Shoghi Effendi or 'Abdu'l-Baha didn't anything like this either, I'm sure of it.

Sorry, looking at your thread, you clarified that you meant people coming together in unity. Baha'u'llah did say the "Most Great Peace" would come. Of course there is no peace now. Unified in this way is not being unified, because it doesn't include Russia, nor is it peace.
Thanks for that.

Quite the contrary. Baha'u'llah did not claim any Bible prophecies that refer to Jesus but He claimed a few that refer to the Comforter and the Spirit of truth, since that is who He was.

Baha'u'llah fulfilled all the Bible prophecies that refer to the return of Christ and the Messiah and these prophecies are continuing to be fulfilled every day.
This is what I am saying - that Bahaulla took the prophecies in the Bible, and applied them to himself... claiming prophesies of the future, to be his.

Jesus never promised to return to earth, not even once in the New Testament. This is a false belief that Christians hold because they have misinterpreted the Bible. Any work that Jesus had to do in this world ended when He left this world, but Christians cannot reality so they believe Jesus is coming back in spite of what Jesus said.

John 14:19 Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also.

John 17:11 And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.

John 17:4 I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do.

John 19:30 When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.
I know what you believe on that. You've said it a million times. ;)
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
This is what I am saying - that Bahaulla took the prophecies in the Bible, and applied them to himself... claiming prophesies of the future, to be his.
Baha'u'llah did not claim any biblical prophesies of the future to be His although He did claim to be the Father foretold by Isaiah.

"Give ear unto that which the Dove of Eternity warbleth upon the twigs of the Divine Lote-Tree: O peoples of the earth! We sent forth him who was named John to baptize you with water, that your bodies might be cleansed for the appearance of the Messiah. He, in turn, purified you with the fire of love and the water of the spirit in anticipation of these Days whereon the All-Merciful hath purposed to cleanse you with the water of life at the hands of His loving providence. This is the Father foretold by Isaiah, and the Comforter concerning Whom the Spirit had covenanted with you. Open your eyes, O concourse of bishops, that ye may behold your Lord seated upon the Throne of might and glory."

The Summons of the Lord of Hosts, p. 63


Baha'is believe that Baha'u'llah was the promised Messiah of the latter days prophesied in the Old Testament and we believe that the messianic prophecies will be fulfilled during the messianic age which will last no less than 1000 years from 1852 AD.
 
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