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"We're a family here." - Corporations to their employees

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
Honestly I think that kindness and love is more important than extra money in one's paycheck.
No, I'll take the extra money at this point. I'm about to throw in the towel and reapply at my abusive ex-employer that I vowed I'd never work for again. Can't afford to have pride and dignity in this world.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
I decided I wanted a second job at 8:30am on a Monday morning (July 29th, I think), got on Indeed and completed an application by 8:45am, received an email by 9am inviting me for an interview, scheduled the interview at 11:15am, and had a job at 11:45am.

It's certainly an employee's market right now.
So? What? It took me almost two years to get a job.
 

Pawpatrol

Active Member
It's a lie.

How are you getting job interviews? I've given up applying because I never hear anything back at all. I don't know how people get jobs now and I'm stuck. It's infuriating.
Sounds like you've given up responsibility. There are jobs out there. It's your job to get the interview and the job. If you're not getting anything, the problem is at your end. It always works that way.
What do you think?
First of all, you read way too much into it. Secondly, you don't care much about your job. You just want to earn a living. If you wanted to be successful and wealthy you would care about the company's success and therefore you'd also want to get along with everyone else.

According to one study 95% of people who were fired from their jobs were fired due to their inability to get along with others. Indeed, if the idea that you were to have some kind of a friendly relationship with the people you work with is repulsive to you, it is better for the company that they don't hire you.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
Sounds like you've given up responsibility. There are jobs out there. It's your job to get the interview and the job. If you're not getting anything, the problem is at your end. It always works that way.

First of all, you read way too much into it. Secondly, you don't care much about your job. You just want to earn a living. If you wanted to be successful and wealthy you would care about the company's success and therefore you'd also want to get along with everyone else.

According one study 95% of people who were fired from their jobs were fired due to their inability to get along with others. Indeed, if the idea that you were to have some kind of a friendly relationship with the people you work with is repulsive to you, it is better for the company that they don't hire you.
Ignore list. Keep your ignorant judgemental **** to yourself. You don't know me or what the hell my situation is so be quiet.
 

Pawpatrol

Active Member
Ignore list. Keep your ignorant judgemental **** to yourself. You don't know me or what the hell my situation is so be quiet.
It's not personal at all. It's the same for everyone, always, everywhere. If you give up responsibility you give up your power as well. It's either get up or give up.
 

Alien826

No religious beliefs
Find out how fast many of your "friends and family" disappear from your life after you leave a particular place of employment. So they were family? I think not.

For the record I worked in my home country (England) until I moved to the USA 35 years ago. I found there was a noticeable difference between the two countries as far as people who worked together being friendly outside work went. In England I had a group of "work" friends who got together socially on a regular basis. My friend who still lives there still meets up with at least three separate groups of people that he worked with at different jobs, some traveling quite large distances to the meeting places.

Here? Not so much. I found that people at work tend to scatter off to their different homes and that was it. Friends tend to be more local. This is in cities, maybe it's different in small country towns.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
According to one study 95% of people who were fired from their jobs were fired due to their inability to get along with others.
That's been my experience with employees.
The ones who can't get along also blame
others for all their problems. And hostility
always becomes directed at the employer,
which I find often leads to theft, eg, stealing
tenants's rent payments, charging personal
things to my account at suppliers.
Such people are their own worst enemy,
so they get fired.
 

Tomef

Well-Known Member
I've worked for quite a few restaurants run by corporate chains. One of the things that is always reiterated in the training and videos that Corporate makes the new hires watch is that the coworkers are supposed to be "a family".

What do you guys think of this? Are your coworkers "your family"?

Personally, I hate this corporate speak and catchphrase. I believe it is icky and manipulative.

First off, not everyone has positive relationships with their families, so equating the work environment to a home environment may not be good for people who have bad home environments.

Secondly, it's a ploy by the bosses to make you work extra/harder. You do favors for your family. You turn a blind eye to your family's misdeeds.

Gosh it makes me cringe every time I hear "We're a family here." I'm not looking for family, I'm looking for work! I've been doing job interviews this past month and managers who interview me often tout that "they are family" with the employees.

What do you think?
Bit ****ing strange. I worked in MacDonald’s when I was a student, had to watch some corporate type go on about that sort of thing. It’s especially odd in the US, when you can get fired for no good reason.

It’s an American thing maybe, I don’t think you’d hear that kind of **** over here.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
It’s especially odd in the US, when you can get fired for no good reason.
That's not quite how it is.
People get fired for good reasons.
But we're not legally required to give a reason.
This is useful, because in a country run by lawyers
for the benefit of lawyers, anything you say can
& will be twisted to be used against you.
 

Tomef

Well-Known Member
That's not quite how it is.
People get fired for good reasons.
But we're not legally required to give a reason.
This is useful, because in a country run by lawyers
for the benefit of lawyers, anything you say can
& will be twisted to be used against you.
Still, it does support the stereotypical idea that North Americans don’t understand irony. A bunch of people who work together according to some professional set of rules and boundaries isn’t a family.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
Still, it does support the stereotypical idea that North Americans don’t understand irony. A bunch of people who work together according to some professional set of rules and boundaries isn’t a family.
Especially when they have rules against fraternizing. Lol. Not that that stops the managers from having gross affairs with subordinates.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Still, it does support the stereotypical idea that North Americans don’t understand irony.
I'm not concerned with foreigners having
bogus stereotypes. Things are what they,
not what others believe.
A bunch of people who work together according to some professional set of rules and boundaries isn’t a family.
For some of us it is. I'm good friends with
many who have & still work for me.
Many decades of fruitful association.
It's the same for Mrs Revolt.
Too bad that so many others don't enjoy
this.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
If you wanted to be successful and wealthy you would care about the company's success
Caring about some **** company who doesn't care about you won't make you wealthy and will never make you a success.
According one study 95% of people who were fired from their jobs were fired due to their inability to get along with others. I
How rude and presumptuous. That doesn't even seem the case and you mention it, why?
 

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
For the record I worked in my home country (England) until I moved to the USA 35 years ago. I found there was a noticeable difference between the two countries as far as people who worked together being friendly outside work went. In England I had a group of "work" friends who got together socially on a regular basis. My friend who still lives there still meets up with at least three separate groups of people that he worked with at different jobs, some traveling quite large distances to the meeting places.

Here? Not so much. I found that people at work tend to scatter off to their different homes and that was it. Friends tend to be more local. This is in cities, maybe it's different in small country towns.
Maybe since you're older, more people are married or in committed relationships and want to just get home. We don't have a pub culture really around here.
 

Tomef

Well-Known Member
I'm not concerned with foreigners having
bogus stereotypes. Things are what they,
not what others believe.

For some of us it is. I'm good friends with
many who have & still work for me.
Many decades of fruitful association.
It's the same for Mrs Revolt.
Too bad that so many others don't enjoy
this.
I worked with my brother in law for a while, maybe that counts. Generally speaking , North Americans are socialised to be agreeable and get along moreso than Europeans, in general, so I suppose that’s a factor.
 
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