"We're a family here." - Corporations to their employees

[Revoltingest]

An untruth is still an untruth when ever it was uttered.

On that we agree.
It's just not perjury.
Perjury would be falsely denying I ever said you love Taylor Swift.
(BTW, this is hypothetical. I'd never insult you that brutally.)

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[Pawpatrol]

I've been a supervisor.

We're on the personal side again, I see.

Of course some people are better at wasting time than they are at their job

That's not what I said. Are you even aware that right here you are changing the meaning of my "message" completely? Do you notice?

The team I was on, we basically all hated our job and hated being there

How lovely.

My own personal crew, get in, get it done and go home was the goal and if any time was being wasted it wasn't one of my people doing it.

That sounds almost too amazing to be true... But then I see you're highly optimistic — at least about yourself.

Your claim was people are only productive about 2 and half hours.

Wrong again. I have never claimed that. Even the article you got that from wasn't saying that.

 

[Kathryn]

I don't like that advice. A friend's company fired
a gal for cause, but she was given good reviews
as encouragement. The good reviews were the
worst mistake ever.
Give honest reviews. Put'm on a PIP (performance
improvement plan). Monitor performance, & give
honest feedback. That's the way....IMO.

Right. DOCUMENT, DOCUMENT!

 

[Kathryn]

And document the truth.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

That's not what I said. Are you even aware that right here you are changing the meaning of my "message" completely? Do you notice?

Of course you didn't say that. I said there are some people who are better at wasting time than working, but thats not that many . You said the average worker is only productive about two and a half hours.

We're on the personal side again, I see

I've supervised workers so I have a relevant view of the topic being discussed.

How lovely.

Uh huh. And we really good at outlr jobs and at the top despite hating everything about it.

That sounds almost too amazing to be true... But then I see you're highly optimistic — at least about yourself.

It's not optimism, it's confidence. And getting to pick my crew, why bring along anyone I don't have confidence in to do a top notch job? My crew, the people I had would even opt to keep working to get it done and go without a break as long as it wasn't gonna more than a few hours (which isn't actually legal in all states).

Wrong again. I have never claimed that. Even the article you got that from wasn't saying that.

You said it here:

The typical employee is only productive for 60% of the day across all professions. But for office workers, that proportion dramatically declines. According to Voucher Cloud’s research, the average office worker is barely productive for two hours and 23 minutes per day.

You link did, so it wasn't "really you" but you used and fleshing things out that claim doesn't hold. Not according to research, not according to those who have supervised workers.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

What do you guys think of this? Are your coworkers "your family"?

No. We certainly are a team.
But we are not family. And my personal private life is no subject to discuss with them, a priori.
Off course with some coworkers you develop a relationship that goes beyond work... you might become real friends etc - that's different.

But a priori, a coworker is a coworker. Part of the team and you treat the relationship as such.
I don't mind if all my employees take it further then that off course. If they get so tight that they consider themselves, family - by my guest.

But I don't expect them to. I don't even expect them to get along on a personal level.
I just expect them to be professional and team players.

So my "catchphrase" there would be "we are a team" and nothing else.

Secondly, it's a ploy by the bosses to make you work extra/harder. You do favors for your family. You turn a blind eye to your family's misdeeds.

Not really. It's not a "ploy". It's to increase team spirit. And yes, off course that benefits the jobs.
I once worked at a company as a consultant where everybody was very individualistic. People used to spend 20-30% of their time "covering up" for themselves. As in: making sure that if something goes wrong with the project, that nobody can blame it on them and / or make the evidence such that the blame will be put on someone else. This hurt overall productivity and quality of work.

It also made sure people didn't help each other out when necessary. So when a certain task was going south, perhaps a worker had difficulty with it, people didn't jump in to help and try to fix it. They were thinking "if I help and it still goes bad, then I will be blamed also".

There's another catchphrase: "There is no 'I' in team"

Working as a team is better for everyone.

Gosh it makes me cringe every time I hear "We're a family here." I'm not looking for family, I'm looking for work! I've been doing job interviews this past month and managers who interview me often tout that "they are family" with the employees.

What do you think?

I think it's bs PR

Team is a much better and more honest word to use.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

I've worked for quite a few restaurants run by corporate chains. One of the things that is always reiterated in the training and videos that Corporate makes the new hires watch is that the coworkers are supposed to be "a family".

Yeah, I agree with you. It's nothing but hot air designed to manipulate workers. It's also a way for corporate sorts to deny to themselves how bad things are out on the floors.

I read an article earlier this week on trust. Virtually all corporate administrators will say that truth (from both employees and from customers) is an important part of a company's bottom line. The problem is, they hugely overestimated the trust from both employees and customers. They really don't have the confidence of others. That they don't see this, when it is rather obvious, shows they tend towards narcissism, thinking they are better at their jobs than they really are.

 

[Esteban X]

Ferengi Rule of Acquisition 111. Treat people in your debt like family... exploit them.