West Antartica Ice Melt Now "Unstoppable": NASA

[Sunstone]

New data show glacial retreat could add four feet to earlier predictions of a three-foot sea level rise by 2100.

Looks like rough times ahead for coastal cities and communities. Please discuss.

 

[CynthiaCypher]

Wow, this thread was totally ignored. Like nobody wants to think about it.

Facts are 4-6 more degrees Celsius and we will have no more ice caps or civilization for that matter. We are barely feeling the effects of greenhouses released in the 70's and 80's, this is just the beginning.

 

[SkylarHunter]

I don't think people are taking this seriously. Political leaders are as usual a lot more worried about votes than how to help those who are going to be victims of this catastrophe.

It's very sad to see this amazing planet heading towards destruction so fast and those who could do something about it continue with their greedy, I-don't-give-a-damn-about-the-future attitude.

 

[kashmir]

The reason why no one seems to care is because they will have expired by then.

But of course, once it becomes a reality about the planets future, God will be blamed as usual, a God that doesn't exist to them

 

[Secret Chief]

New data show glacial retreat could add four feet to earlier predictions of a three-foot sea level rise by 2100.

Looks like rough times ahead for coastal cities and communities. Please discuss.

Looks like rough times ahead for life on earth. Please ignore global warming deniers.

 

[kashmir]

Looks like rough times ahead for life on earth. Please ignore global warming deniers.

I skimmed through the posts on the website, it seems the majority still don't believe it and think its no big deal.

Like I said, every single one of us wont be here when it really changes, so why care?
Glad I don't have kids, because then I would have to care.

Whats the excuse for not caring, those who do have kids and grand kids?
Specially all the ones making billions of dollars by polluting the air and dumping all the carbon and wastes...

Sort of reminds me of the movie "day after tomorrow"
No one cared then either, not even the governments, until it was much too late.

 

[Curious George]

As long as there is water life will persist. The earth will be fine.

 

[Sir Doom]

So, does this mean we had a plan in place to stop it and that plan is no longer viable? Or did we just confirm finally that coming up with plans to stop it is useless? And what now?

 

[kashmir]

So, does this mean we had a plan in place to stop it and that plan is no longer viable? Or did we just confirm finally that coming up with plans to stop it is useless? And what now?

No clue, doubt it was stoppable in the first place, not with the lifestyles of the world.
If and when there was a time to reverse the effects, I doubt anyone would revert to the Amish way of life while Nasa still continued to send rocketships to outerspace and the gov still flew around the world to play footies with each other, pretending to actually care about anything more than lining their pockets.
Which is why we have the problem in the first place.
The gov cares more about lining their pockets then they do about their own grandkids futures.

 

[Curious George]

So, does this mean we had a plan in place to stop it and that plan is no longer viable? Or did we just confirm finally that coming up with plans to stop it is useless? And what now?

The article seems to indicate that nothing can be done, and it was unforeseen to some extent. Meaning that we would have needed to devise a plan much sooner. Though we did fail, it likely happened years ago, and our current failures are just accelerating the mess. I say we go for broke and melt it all. I am not sure whether Christians will be happy that the long awaited endtimes are finally here or angry that it didn't happen how it was supposed to happen.

Article is a quick read, but apparently West Antarctica does not have the same type of topography, specifically hills and mountains, necessary to stymie the melt and thus represents a stymie.

 

[Curious George]

No clue, doubt it was stoppable in the first place, not with the lifestyles of the world.
If and when there was a time to reverse the effects, I doubt anyone would revert to the Amish way of life while Nasa still continued to send rocketships to outerspace and the gov still flew around the world to play footies with each other, pretending to actually care about anything more than lining their pockets.
Which is why we have the problem in the first place.
The gov cares more about lining their pockets then they do about their own grandkids futures.

Oh come on now, we are culpable too. Who pays taxes, who drives cars, consumerism requires consumers and governments require people. it is always easy to point fingers and always difficult to take responsibility.

 

[kashmir]

The article seems to indicate that nothing can be done, and it was unforeseen to some extent. Meaning that we would have needed to devise a plan much sooner. Though we did fail, it likely happened years ago, and our current failures are just accelerating the mess. I say we go for broke and melt it all. I am not sure whether Christians will be happy that the long awaited endtimes are finally here or angry that it didn't happen how it was supposed to happen.

Article is a quick read, but apparently West Antarctica does not have the same type of topography, specifically hills and mountains, necessary to stymie the melt and thus represents a stymie.

I think that in the end, those in charge been going for broke since the beginning, it's apparent with everything science does with technology.
We could have used hemp for everything from the start, but that wasn't necessary, "lets use up all the fossil fuels first" seems to be the game plan.

Oh come on now, we are culpable too. Who pays taxes, who drives cars, consumerism requires consumers and governments require people. it is always easy to point fingers and always difficult to take responsibility.

What choice do we have?
Drive cars to work, heat our homes and put meals on the table requires the usage of what we have as options.

All environmentally safe options have been suppressed from the begining and are just now becoming an option, for those with $$$ that is.

 

[Curious George]

I think that in the end, those in charge been going for broke since the beginning, it's apparent with everything science does with technology.
We could have used hemp for everything from the start, but that wasn't necessary, "lets use up all the fossil fuels first" seems to be the game plan.

While hemp is a valuable sustainable resource that is and has been overlooked there are many less controversial plants that could have sufficed as well. But one side wanted weed, one side "abhorred" weed, and another side already had control of different resources. There is a reason people advocate so heavily for hemp, and it is not just the sustainability factors.

 

[kashmir]

While hemp is a valuable sustainable resource that is and has been overlooked there are many less controversial plants that could have sufficed as well. But one side wanted weed, one side "abhorred" weed, and another side already had control of different resources. There is a reason people advocate so heavily for hemp, and it is not just the sustainability factors.

Nonsense, its nothing short of greed by the higher ups.
A small group of people are creating various strands of hemp for medical purposes and the higher ups are still trying to suppress it so we will only have their man made drugs to take.

"we just now learned that hemp has a whole spectrum of heath usages"
Yah, ok, sure we did.

 

[Curious George]

I think that in the end, those in charge been going for broke since the beginning, it's apparent with everything science does with technology.
We could have used hemp for everything from the start, but that wasn't necessary, "lets use up all the fossil fuels first" seems to be the game plan.



What choice do we have?
Drive cars to work, heat our homes and put meals on the table requires the usage of what we have as options.

All environmentally safe options have been suppressed from the begining and are just now becoming an option, for those with $$$ that is.

Domino effects suck. "we didn't start the fire" but that doesn't negate our guilt. How many people living today would it have taken to stop this snowball? If it is or was ever possible. And those homo sapiens of yesteryear- well they had no idea they were opening Pandora's box, so I guess we can't blame them either. Conveniently, everyone gets a get out of jail free card. sure what little I could have done would have hardly mattered but that doesn't absolve me. That is just a rationalization.

long after we are finally gone life will persist. It's okay.

 

[kashmir]

Domino effects suck. "we didn't start the fire" but that doesn't negate our guilt. How many people living today would it have taken to stop this snowball? If it is or was ever possible. And those homo sapiens of yesteryear- well they had no idea they were opening Pandora's box, so I guess we can't blame them either. Conveniently, everyone gets a get out of jail free card. sure what little I could have done would have hardly mattered but that doesn't absolve me. That is just a rationalization.

long after we are finally gone life will persist. It's okay.

How does that even relate to what I said about the choices we are given to get back and forth to work and to heat our homes to stay alive?
The higher ups is the ones who decided the snowball affect, not common man, we never had a say in it from the start.

To be frank, most non-believers mock the heck out of Amish people and they are the only ones who are getting it right.
Sad that this whole thing affects them too, right down to the very air they breathe.

 

[Curious George]

Nonsense, its nothing short of greed by the higher ups.
A small group of people are creating various strands of hemp for medical purposes and the higher ups are still trying to suppress it so we will only have their man made drugs to take.

"we just now learned that hemp has a whole spectrum of heath usages"
Yah, ok, sure we did.

I'm sorry, I thought you were talking about using hemp for its other uses. Sure, it can be used as a drug, but I think the impact as textile, oil, paper, etc. would have had more of an effect on global warming. I don't think that the damage done producing Tylenol has ravaged our environment worse than say the paper and carpet industries. However, I see your point- every bit counts. And the production and testing of drugs surely causes more damage than growing a couple plants in a garden.

 

[kashmir]

I'm sorry, I thought you were talking about using hemp for its other uses. Sure, it can be used as a drug, but I think the impact as textile, oil, paper, etc. would have had more of an effect on global warming. I don't think that the damage done producing Tylenol has ravaged our environment worse than say the paper and carpet industries. However, I see your point- every bit counts. And the production and testing of drugs surely causes more damage than growing a couple plants in a garden.

From what i read, hemp is more environmentally safe than fossil fuels.
It's also much saver and better than cutting down trees that takes 1000 times longer to regrow.
They call it weed for a reason, it practically grows over night.

Science can send rockets to outer space but didn't know X about hemp?
Not sure if that is what you are saying, but it seems like you are supporting science for their lack of concerns for all this discussion.

"hippies" been saying this since the 60's, so if they knew, I am sure science knew.

 

[Curious George]

From what i read, hemp is more environmentally safe than fossil fuels.
It's also much saver and better than cutting down trees that that 1000 times longer to regrow.
They call it weed for a reason, it practically grows over night.

Science can send rockets to outer space but didn't know X about hemp?
Not sure if that is what you are saying, but it seems like you are supporting science for their lack of concerns for all this discussion.

"hippies" been saying this since the 60's, so if they knew, I am sure science knew.

No. But I am not trying to blame some mysterious higher ups whom we empowered. Bamboo and banana trees grow fast. Other plants grow fast as well. weed hardly has the market cornered. But this is not a single facet subject. What about all those monoculture farms. What about the landfills, the spendthrift consumers, the homeowners, the SUV owners, the supermarket shoppers, the meat eaters, the party goers, and even the hippies in the sixties traveling the states in their VW's. Roads are not exactly the pinnacle of environmentally friendly. We all contribute to waste.

We have been for centuries. You and I are just as much part of the problem. We cannot point our fingers as say, it was those dirty "higher ups." They should have thought better, offered us different choices.

 

[Curious George]

How does that even relate to what I said about the choices we are given to get back and forth to work and to heat our homes to stay alive?
The higher ups is the ones who decided the snowball affect, not common man, we never had a say in it from the start.

To be frank, most non-believers mock the heck out of Amish people and they are the only ones who are getting it right.
Sad that this whole thing affects them too, right down to the very air they breathe.

Because you did have a choice. You chose to buy in. You wanted a computer, you wanted a car, you wanted a home. Did you spend your days in advocacy? Did you spend your resources and brain power on creating a more sustainable environment? I am not talking a little either- I mean a double down and all in life devotion. No you did not. Not did I. so, why when you and i took shortcuts, why when you and I found luxury, do we blame higher ups for doing the same. Are we inferior to them? should we not demand both our fair share of riches and culpability when the spoils are divided?