What’s wrong with those people who worship animals?

[sovietchild]

uh...huh?

Please excuse me. It's late, I have chemo-brain and you've lost me. Explain?

According to your belief God is The Knower of All, right? If so, then how the closest rank to God is not knowledge?

 

[Aupmanyav]

Okay, you made a point. Now, let's say one moved to the jungle where they don't have any cows, why would one continue to worship a cow? Shouldn't one then start worshiping a wild pig?

Soviet, let me inform you that Fish (Matsya), Tortoise (Kurma), Boar (Varah) and Man-Lion (Nrisimha) are the first four avataras of Lord Vishnu. As for goats, the first king of men, Daksha, who was beheaded on the orders of Lord Shiva, carries the head of a goat as the replacement.

Avataras - Fish, Tortoise,

 

[McBell]

Apparently, there are people who worship animals. Yes, animals. Who are way lower in rank then a human. They are not allowed to eat those animals nor kill them. And, if one were to eat that animal, the society would put them in jail, or even kill them. The society treats those animals like some kind of a deity. They even install shelters for them to live in. What’s wrong with those people who worship animals?

Humans have much more authority of animals. Why would they devalue themselves, and respect those animals like they are higher in-rank then a human? A human can engineer an animal, an animal on other hand can not engineer a human. In that case, an animal should worship the human not the other way around. Don’t you agree?

Owning an animal like a goat for example, represents wealth. Can there be a link between worshiping wealth and worshiping an animal?

Based upon the number of threads you have started with the word "worship" in the title, I think it safe to assume you are using a Humpty Dumpty definition of the word "worship".

 

[Riders]

According to your belief God is The Knower of All, right? If so, then how the closest rank to God is not knowledge?

No theres not one Gods theres Gods and Goddesses and one God would not know all. I still don't understand you think with rank, why would you even consider putting God the Gods and Godesses in rank order, that's odd?

WHat does rank mean to you?

 

[McBell]

Apparently, there are people who worship animals. Yes, animals. Who are way lower in rank then a human. They are not allowed to eat those animals nor kill them. And, if one were to eat that animal, the society would put them in jail, or even kill them. The society treats those animals like some kind of a deity. They even install shelters for them to live in. What’s wrong with those people who worship animals?

Humans have much more authority of animals. Why would they devalue themselves, and respect those animals like they are higher in-rank then a human? A human can engineer an animal, an animal on other hand can not engineer a human. In that case, an animal should worship the human not the other way around. Don’t you agree?

Owning an animal like a goat for example, represents wealth. Can there be a link between worshiping wealth and worshiping an animal?

Personally, I disagree with your "Might Makes Right" philosophy.

 

[sovietchild]

No theres not one Gods theres Gods and Goddesses and one God would not know all. I still don't understand you think with rank, why would you even consider putting God the Gods and Godesses in rank order, that's odd?

WHat does rank mean to you?

Didn't you see that I was chatting about his belief?

 

[Riders]

This whole thread is biased or bigoted,instead of just saying earth based or Pagans were talking about all this worshipping of animals.

Its a stereotype of Pagans, Mother Nature is what they worship, you seem to be targeting Native AMericans quite abit.

Why don't you brave up and call us Pagans or earthbased folks instead of animal worhippers?

I think in your mind it makes Pagans or earth based folks look rediculous, so instead of really confronting the whole religion, which you could you come up with these dumb stereotypes of Native Americans.

I can come up with a similar comparison for your religion to, why do you Christians worship the bible?

 

[sovietchild]

This whole thread is biased or bigoted,instead of just saying earth based or Pagans were talking about all this worshipping of animals.

Its a stereotype of Pagans, Mother Nature is what they worship, you seem to be targeting Native AMericans quite abit.

Why don't you brave up and call us Pagans or earthbased folks instead of animal worhippers?

I think in your mind it makes Pagans or earth based folks look rediculous, so instead of really confronting the whole religion, which you could you come up with these dumb stereotypes of Native Americans.

I can come up with a similar comparison for your religion to, why do you Christians worship the bible?

What is right with pagan beliefs?

For example, about 90% of Leopards cubs tend to die because of how hard their environment is. Majority of elephants die out of starvation because their teeth follow out when they age. Why worship something that is helpless?

 

[McBell]

This whole thread is biased or bigoted,instead of just saying earth based or Pagans were talking about all this worshipping of animals.

Its a stereotype of Pagans, Mother Nature is what they worship, you seem to be targeting Native AMericans quite abit.

Why don't you brave up and call us Pagans or earthbased folks instead of animal worhippers?

I think in your mind it makes Pagans or earth based folks look rediculous, so instead of really confronting the whole religion, which you could you come up with these dumb stereotypes of Native Americans.

I can come up with a similar comparison for your religion to, why do you Christians worship the bible?

Based upon the OP, I suspect he is "targeting" cows in India.
Thus prompting my post about his Humpty Dumpty definition of "worship".

though I can understand how those who know nothing about it might see it as worship.

One wonders if he will have his atypical "not the subject" response if he gets asked about worshiping rocks and mention Mecca.

 

[Riders]

What is right with pagan beliefs?

For example, about 90% of Leopards cubs tend to die because of how hard their environment is. Majority of elephants die out of starvation because their teeth follow out when they age. Why worship something that is helpless?

That's not Paganism, you have no idea what you are talking about.

What is right with pagan beliefs?

For example, about 90% of Leopards cubs tend to die because of how hard their environment is. Majority of elephants die out of starvation because their teeth follow out when they age. Why worship something that is helpless?

I belong to a Pagan Unitarian Universalist church where I do participate in rituals. We have a system the Verity Gods and Goddesses we worship.

Its a list of 3 Gods and 3 Goddesses that are worshipped, that are usually listed in many Pagan religions. We have Trickster or Loki, the God who plays tricks on you, the Birth Goddess, Love God and a Goddess of death, and I cant remember the other 2.

If you respond by talking about animal worship after that, I will assume you are not intelligent enough to be in this conversation.

 

[sovietchild]

If you respond by talking about animal worship after that, I will assume you are not intelligent enough to be in this conversation.

Does going off-topic seem reasonable to you?

Plus, where did our last conversation ended? Oh yeah, it was about humans degrading animals to the point where they can't survive on their own.

What do you think about those tiny dogs - animals that are independent by nature. In your opinion, is it okay to degrade them?

 

[Riders]

Does going off-topic seem reasonable to you?

Plus, where did our last conversation ended? Oh yeah, it was about humans degrading animals to the point where they can't survive on their own.

What do you think about those tiny dogs - animals that are independent by nature. In your opinion, is it okay to degrade them?

Your whole thread is off topic. You start a thread by naming beliefs of a specific religion your pointing too, in this case Paganism, and all your knowledge about it is untrue, the beliefs you name are something you know nothing about.

Starting up a thread about beliefs that don't exist is off topic, this whole thread is off topic.

 

[dianaiad]

According to your belief God is The Knower of All, right? If so, then how the closest rank to God is not knowledge?

Ok, you seem to have skipped a few steps in the logic path, for me. My belief is that God knows everything that can be known. I also believe that we are His children, quite literally, and have free agency to select among those choices available to us. I don't think that this quite marches with your idea that 'knowledge is the closest rank to God.'

Of course, perhaps it's because I'm not really certain what your definition of 'knowledge' is, or 'rank,' for that matter.

I'm still confused. Forgive me for not thinking clearly here. To me, it seems a bit like asking the kid who has eight siblings whether the 'closest rank' to his father belongs to the child who knows the most. So your question isn't making a whole lot of sense to me. I'm sorry; my fault, but my brain really isn't working well today.

 

[FunctionalAtheist]

Apparently, there are people who worship animals. Yes, animals. Who are way lower in rank then a human. They are not allowed to eat those animals nor kill them. And, if one were to eat that animal, the society would put them in jail, or even kill them. The society treats those animals like some kind of a deity. They even install shelters for them to live in. What’s wrong with those people who worship animals?

Humans have much more authority of animals. Why would they devalue themselves, and respect those animals like they are higher in-rank then a human? A human can engineer an animal, an animal on other hand can not engineer a human. In that case, an animal should worship the human not the other way around. Don’t you agree?

Owning an animal like a goat for example, represents wealth. Can there be a link between worshiping wealth and worshiping an animal?

I worship beef, with horseradish steak sauce. It's the only time I pray!

 

[sovietchild]

It's the only time I pray!

No way! Really?

 

[FunctionalAtheist]

No way! Really?

YES!!

 

[sovietchild]

Your whole thread is off topic. You start a thread by naming beliefs of a specific religion your pointing too, in this case Paganism, and all your knowledge about it is untrue, the beliefs you name are something you know nothing about.

Starting up a thread about beliefs that don't exist is off topic, this whole thread is off topic.

I want to continue to chat about those dogs, let's continue the conversation. Does degrading animals like dogs to the point where they can't survive on their own seem reasonable to you? Or, is it justifiable because we humans can do whatever we wish with them?

 

[Riders]

I want to continue to chat about those dogs, let's continue the conversation. Does degrading animals like dogs to the point where they can't survive on their own seem reasonable to you? Or, is it justifiable because we humans can do whatever we wish with them?

What do tiny dogs have to do with people worshipping animals. Of course its never justifiable to hurt any animal. Its not just tiny dogs its animals all over the world being abused.

The word is abused, not sure where you got degrading from,we as a nation kill off endangered species everyday and it is never ok.

What on Gods green earth does that have to do with anything? Humans obviously can NOT DO ANYING WE WISH WITH them;

Especially sense animal control folks and environmental protection laws against killing certain endangered species have been in place, and sense you cant hunt or kill in certain parks.

Youll be ticketed or taking to jail in certain circumstances and animal control take charge of abused animals all the time and take people to jail.

So where in the world did you get he idea that we control animals and can do anything with them, that's kind of nutty. You must live on another continent.

 

[sovietchild]

So where in the world did you get he idea that we control animals and can do anything with them, that's kind of nutty. You must live on another continent.

Part of me thinks its reasonable for humans to do with animals anything they wish.

You know those small dogs that people have, right? How can they survive on their own in the woods? It looks like people took their independence away from them.

 

[Onyx]

You know those small dogs that people have, right? How can they survive on their own in the woods? It looks like people took their independence away from them.

I have lots of rabbits and squirrels in my yard, what's the difference? What about those poor little birds?