What are the best and worst things about heaven?

[Jimmy]

Best: dessert
Worst: diarrhea

 

[Hockeycowboy]

This gets back to my comment above. Not much of a teacher if in your opinion most Christians didn't take Jesus' points.

Hello IANS.

Let me ask you: didn’t Jesus say His disciples would be hated by the world?
Who wants to be hated, really?

That doesn’t make him a bad teacher, at all (for the most part, people loved his teachings) …. It’s just that this world being full of divisive nationalism, condoning anything-goes promiscuity, and supporting selfish & materialistic behaviors, makes it difficult to live by his & his Father’s standards.

And, Jesus indicated there would be significant forces working against him —
At Matthew 7:23 Jesus said,
“Many will say to me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and expel demons in your name and perform many powerful works in your name? And yet I will say to them: ‘Away from me, you workers of evil’.”

Obviously, these ones did not have Jesus’ (or His Father’s) power backing them, yet they were performing “many powerful works.”

Where were they getting the power? From what source?

The same source that is “misleading the entire inhabited earth” (Revelation 12:9); the same source that imposters dead relatives, making the living think they can talk with them.

They’ve even influenced Christendom to think they can represent Christ, while at the same time kill their enemies and their brothers! (Matthew 5:44; John 13:34,35; John 15:12,14,17-19)
Christendom has been disobedient since its inception in the 4th Cent. AD, despite Christ’s clear commands.
If Christendom is hated, it’s due to their hypocrisy (also by design - 2Corinthians 11:13-15). Not their obedience to Christ.

 

[Hockeycowboy]

Another poster wrote, "I believe when confronted with the truth JWs flee." I described my relatively recent experiences with a couple of JWs who gave up on me in less than five minutes when I disagreed with them about the world and life, which they saw as very negative even though I'll bet their lives were pretty good as was mine.

Yes, their lives may have sufficient necessities, and maybe even some wants. Mine too.

But what about the 1/10th of the world that’s starving?

We may have food in our fridge, clothes on our backs, a roof over our heads and a place to sleep, but what about the 75% of the world’s population that don’t?

What about the increase of Heart disease, and cancer? Much of this could be prevented, if human greed didn’t play such a huge part in both the food industry, and other ventures preying on human addictions.

(BTW, we are comparing the world we live in now, with the world prior to 1914. With the outbreak of the Great War (WWI), society has deteriorated big time! That was when the Biblical Last Days began. I will post the evidence supporting this conclusion later.)

Advancing technologies from science are wonderful, but I think they help to mask just how bad people are hurting.

I’m sorry, but your view seems to be a tad selfish, and looking only at trees and not the forest.

I wouldn't describe that as fleeing, although one might make a case that they were afraid of the truth.

I think I just stated the truth, above.

You're a JW because that's what you chose to believe.

Actually, it’s not. I was and still am convinced that the Bible supports what I was taught; not because it’s ‘what I want to believe.’

For instance, I don’t want to believe that my dead loved ones - my Dad, grandparents, aunts & uncles, some friends, etc. - are completely gone… I’d rather believe that they were living in another realm.

But that doesn’t agree with what Scripture tells us.

“The dead do not praise the Lord; Nor do any who go down into the silence of death.” Psalm 115:17

To Adam, Jehovah said: “You will return to the ground… For dust you are, and to dust you will return.” Genesis 3:19

Have a good day.)

 

[Hockeycowboy]

I think that is a false accusation. I see no difference between the JWs and the other Christians in that regard.

Oh my goodness!

Our neutrality is one of the things we are known for! It identifies us.

No, but that does not mean that the JWs are the only ones in the world that have the Truth

I didn’t say that.
But it does show that God worked through only one group. Not several.
Just like the one nation of Israel, the only one that had His mark of approval.

 

[It Aint Necessarily So]

didn’t Jesus say His disciples would be hated by the world?

Hey HJ

I was referring to his followers and their failure to learn his lesson according to you.

Yes, their lives may have sufficient necessities, and maybe even some wants. Mine too. But what about the 1/10th of the world that’s starving?

That's a different topic. These JWs were speaking to me. They told me how bad the world is, I told them that my life was good, and they left. It seemed like they expected me to be ungrateful for that and were surprised when I wasn't. You can't normalize that attitude. It's abnormal to expect people with safe and happy lives to be unhappy about that because others have worse lives.

 

[Martin]

The worst thing about heaven is that it implies hell.

 

[Trailblazer]

I didn’t say that.
But it does show that God worked through only one group. Not several.
Just like the one nation of Israel, the only one that had His mark of approval.

What makes you think that the JWs are that one group?
Where is the evidence?

 

[Trailblazer]

The worst thing about heaven is that it implies hell.

Heaven does not have to imply hell. That is only a Christian belief.