What are the most illogical U.S. laws you can think of?

[Curious George]

What experience with enforcing all the conflicting laws here do you have?

I suspect that your goal is just making trouble.
I have proof!

Was there a particular aspect that was not addressed by any of the cases which I cited? I assume we are talking about square footage per person? You do not honestly think that it is the intention of the fair housing act to force landlords to rent unsafe conditions to a family do you?

 

[Revoltingest]

Was there a particular aspect that was not addressed by any of the cases which I cited?

Those cases didn't eliminate the conflict in other locations.
You could argue that as applicable precedent, they should.
Nonetheless the conflicting laws are on the books, & the
city has not resolved the conflict.

I assume we are talking about square footage per person?

That is only one issue.
There are more, eg, limiting R4C occupancy to max 6 unrelated people, with "unrelated" being undefined.

Hah!
I knew it!
You're arguing based upon general legal theory, not local reality.
You've no business experience in our bizarre little People's Republic!

You do not honestly think that it is the intention of the fair housing act to force landlords to rent unsafe conditions to a family do you?

Non sequitur.
This is about laws being illogical, in this case because of conflict.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Another super dumb one from Indiana, if a male is 18 or older, and has a female passenger in his car who is 16 or younger and has no shoes and socks on then he can be charged with statutory rape.
We also have what are technically supposed to be closed primary elections, but they have no reinforcement as such as you are encouraged to vote in the primary of the party you voted for last election. The only sort of enforcement it has is the honor system.

 

[Revoltingest]

Another super dumb one from Indiana, if a male is 18 or older, and has a female passenger in his car who is 16 or younger and has no shoes and socks on then he can be charged with statutory rape.
We also have what are technically supposed to be closed primary elections, but they have no reinforcement as such as you are encouraged to vote in the primary of the party you voted for last election. The only sort of enforcement it has is the honor system.

If a father has a shoeless daughter in his car, then is it incest too?

 

[Curious George]

Those cases didn't eliminate the conflict in other locations.
You could argue that as applicable precedent, they should.
Nonetheless the conflicting laws are on the books, & the
city has not resolved the conflict.

That is only one issue.
There are more, eg, limiting R4C occupancy to max 6 unrelated people, with "unrelated" being undefined.

Hah!
I knew it!
You're arguing based upon general legal theory, not local reality.
You've no business experience in our bizarre little People's Republic!

Non sequitur.
This is about laws being illogical, in this case because of conflict.

The conflict is not there. No state reads the fair housing act in the way you are trying to construe it. The Supreme Court is going to give legislation a lot of discretion unless a substantive due process issue arises. Do you think the current zoning laws raise such an issue?

 

[Revoltingest]

The conflict is not there. No state reads the fair housing act in the way you are trying to construe it. The Supreme Court is going to give legislation a lot of discretion unless a substantive due process issue arises. Do you think the current zoning laws raise such an issue?

We don't have a "housing act".
I think we've covered this as much as is possible, given that you
(neither living nor working here) are telling me (living & working
here) all about what I experienced in a business I ran.

 

[Curious George]

We don't have a "housing act".
I think we've covered this as much as is possible, given that you
(neither living nor working here) are telling me (living & working
here) all about what I experienced in a business I ran.

Lol. I suppose it is no surprise that a landlord doesn't know that something called the "fair housing act" exists.

Cheers, enough for now then.

 

[Revoltingest]

Lol. I suppose it is no surprise that a landlord doesn't know that something called the "fair housing act" exists.

Cheers, enough for now then.

I see that you don't know the proper names of the laws under discussion.
(Not one is called "housing act".)
Since you've not answered any questions about what real world experience
you have in the housing industry, I'll speculate that you have none.
Consider how lame it must appear when you pretend knowledge of something
which has been my business as a licensed broker in this state for decades.
Sitting in your parents basement looking up info on the web won't give a full
understanding of what happens in the real world.

(Oh, snap!)

 

[Curious George]

I see that you don't know the proper names of the laws under discussion.
(Not one is called "housing act".)
Since you've not answered any questions about what real world experience
you have in the housing industry, I'll speculate that you have none.
Consider how lame it must appear when you pretend knowledge of something
which has been my business as a licensed broker in this state for decades.
Sitting in your parents basement looking up info on the web won't give a full
understanding of what happens in the real world.

(Oh, snap!)

Lol. Why do keep omitting the word "fair" from the "fair housing act" I just don't understand. Do landlords have a block against all things "fair" or is it a Freudian slip?

This is hysterical.

 

[Revoltingest]

Lol. Why do keep omitting the word "fair" from the "fair housing act" I just don't understand. Do landlords have a block against all things "fair" or is it a Freudian slip?

This is hysterical.

I think I hear your mom calling you.
"Your Fruit Loops are ready.
Don't let'm get soggy!"

 

[Curious George]

I think I hear your mom calling you.
"Your Fruit Loops are ready.
Don't let'm get soggy!"

Please tell me you at least Googled "fair housing act" by this point.

 

[Revoltingest]

Please tell me you at least Googled "fair housing act" by this point.

You might be surprised by this, but to become a broker requires
extensive class time covering the various fair housing & other laws.
And then there's yearly continuing education on the subjects.

While you learn about such things by surfing the web, I actually
ran a business which dealt with these laws. It doesn't matter
how fast your computer is....one cannot understand the world
from a basement lair.

 

[Curious George]

You might be surprised by this, but to become a broker requires
extensive class time covering the various fair housing & other laws.
And then there's yearly continuing education on the subjects.

While you learn about such things by surfing the web, I actually
ran a business which dealt with these laws. It doesn't matter
how fast your computer is....one cannot understand the world
from a basement lair.

Don't be bitter Revoltingest, it doesn't suit you. If you would like to know anything about me you can ask me in PM, but you might hate me more.

 

[Revoltingest]

Don't be bitter Revoltingest, it doesn't suit you. If you would like to know anything about me you can ask me in PM, but you might hate me more.

Bitter?
This is me at my friendliest.

Btw, I did google something...."curious george".
Lo! I found you!

I must admit that it's a nifty working environment you have there.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

@Curious George - the fact that real haggis and Kinder Surprise are illegal in the US is something that gets a fair bit of mockery from other countries. There's a long-standing joke that the importers should try to get them classified as weapons so that then the American government would think it’s fine.

Of course, I live in a country where our head of state is chosen based on supposed descent from the god Wotan, so I’m probably not one to cast stones.

 

[Curious George]

@Curious George - the fact that real haggis and Kinder Surprise are illegal in the US is something that gets a fair bit of mockery from other countries. There's a long-standing joke that the importers should try to get them classified as weapons so that then the American government would think it’s fine.

Of course, I live in a country where our head of state is chosen based on supposed descent from the god Wotan, so I’m probably not one to cast stones.

If that pun (kinder surprise when discussing strict liability for statutory rape) was intended then I severely underestimated your sense of humor.

 

[YmirGF]

The age limit for alcohol being at 21 years while the age limit for everything else is at 18 years.

Yeah, if you are old enough to die for your country, you really ought to be able to buy a stiff drink.

 

[Revoltingest]

Yeah, if you are old enough to die for your country, you really ought to be able to buy a stiff drink.

That was actually the argument that lowered Michiganistanian's
drinking age from 21 to 18 while the draft was on. But now no
draft, so back up to 21 it is.

Note:
Being able to die for one's country doesn't take much responsibility.
It's killing for God & country which requires judgement & maturity.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

If that pun (kinder surprise when discussing strict liability for statutory rape) was intended then I severely underestimated your sense of humor.

No, it wasn’t.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Yeah, if you are old enough to die for your country, you really ought to be able to buy a stiff drink.

FYI: at Canadian Forces Bases, the on-base bars will serve alcohol to servicemen and servicewomen, regardless of whether they’re of normal legal drinking age in the province the base is in.