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What came before the Big Bang?
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Thief
Rogue Theologian
But you still don't SEE!
I've been blind seven days.....
since then I make a point of it to look at things......
I mean REALLY look at things.
godnotgod
Thou art That
Maybe that's the problem: you're looking so hard you fail to see. Looking is not seeing.
Ouroboros
Coincidentia oppositorum
But you still don't SEE!
He can't see he has two left feet simply because he also has two left eyes...
(Just kiddin' of course)
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
No beginning-- no end-- it's like what you feel when you talk to an insurance salesman.
Thief
Rogue Theologian
yeah and...none are so blind as those who will not see....
I know the drill.
You were saying?.........
newgodthinker
Member
I'd say God is outside of the temporal order. We should keep looking back into time before the big bang (see speculation on gravitational wave signatures and such) and expect scientific results. But on a moral and spiritual level, stick to God.
Thief
Rogue Theologian
Looking for that 'evidence' of God?
I don't think that works.
When looking for God with science, I can do cause and effect...God did it.
But science can't be used on God.
He created the stuff.
outhouse
Atheistically
Sure it can.
If something doesn't exist, science can state quite clearly it does not exist.
godnotgod
Thou art That
I was saying that to have one eye on the path and one eye on the goal, instead of both eyes on the path, is to go amiss.
godnotgod
Thou art That
He can't see he has two left feet simply because he also has two left eyes...
(Just kiddin' of course)
Maybe it was just a poorly chosen metaphor after all.
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Thief
Rogue Theologian
And there you go stepping with two left feet.
Try speaking in literal terms for a change.
Have a goal....pay attention to what you are doing.
godnotgod
Thou art That
But you don't. Your attention is diverted to some notion of an afterlife, so that you are not fully present in the here and now. All of your efforts are motivated by a gaining idea, which rob you of the rich experience of being here, now, there being a certain amount of fear, (or is it terror?) about the chance of going to the grave. All of your efforts dance around this idea of escape, and the more you make moves to escape, the more you enslave yourself.
outhouse
Atheistically
Thief
Rogue Theologian
You are now confusing attention with presence.
No wonder you can't follow this discussion.
Move? I think I will.
I suspect getting from one place to another might even be easier than this life.
In the next life your attention might very well take you anywhere you want to go.
I suppose by your speech...you will just lay in your grave?
Thief
Rogue Theologian
No frubals for you.....you're as confused as the other guy.
Thief
Rogue Theologian
Just this morning some guy was interviewed on the radio, about Einstein.
Seems he had access to the papers Albert left behind.
And it seems Albert made errors....quite a bit!
About the expansion.....
The only notable effect that catches my eye.....it's gaining speed!!!!!!!
That seems contrary to the basic laws of motion that I thought to be sure of.
Seems he had access to the papers Albert left behind.
And it seems Albert made errors....quite a bit!
About the expansion.....
The only notable effect that catches my eye.....it's gaining speed!!!!!!!
That seems contrary to the basic laws of motion that I thought to be sure of.
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