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What caused the Christian and Muslim invasions of India?

rational experiences

Veteran Member
Original hindu philosophy was peaceful. Moses made it violent. They came back violently.
Man's consciousness changed in their owned nation.

By machine star fall hits. In their country using technology. Their country also was saved by heavens cooling by vacuum void mother womb space.

So conscious man changed.

If all Hindu men abided consciousness life was mutual equal no caste system would still exist after.

The same in Muslim countries. Not all men were cruel or self Idolating.

The idea of my brother is to blame in other nations came about only after heavy metal fallout wind travelled carrier from the east.

And sea son changes.

Therefore mind behaviour changed by a known Secondary status. Proven a mental health Inheritance to act violently.

Once trade was mutual. Is the ancient memory. The ideas of trading changed to just taking. As minds change is historic.

All based on loss of the natural mind function.

Brothers have always blamed brother in other lands as being eviller as every country using the pyramid temple technology blew up. You don't remember your own. You remember your brother's only.

India continent owned less personal fallout history and was taught already why.
 

River Sea

Well-Known Member
Pauline Christianity and Islam can't really afford not to try and convince each community that they learn of that they hold the One True Truth.

@LuisDantas I've never heard of Pauline Christianity can you tell me more what is Pauline Christianity?

Pauline Christianity - Wikipedia

Pauline Christianity or Pauline theology (also Paulism or Paulanity),[2] otherwise referred to as Gentile Christianity

There's so much I don't know - this can go forever...

Who's Paul in the bible compare to Thomas?

Did Paul and Thomas get along or did they debate and disagree with each other?

How did Paul and Thomas affect or effect India later?

Do I use affect or effect in that sentence. I yet need to look up those two words., affect or effect.

What are your thoughts about Paul and Thomas and their influences?
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
@LuisDantas I've never heard of Pauline Christianity can you tell me more what is Pauline Christianity?

When I speak of Pauline Christianity, I do so to distinguish what is now mainstream Christianity from its early, most direct rivals (disregarding for the moment several movements that are now considered heresies, such as Pelagianism and Adoptionism). Those would be Gnostic Christianism and Judaism.

Pauline Christianity is noteworthy because it introduces the expectation that Abraham's god would somehow apply even to non-believers and people who never had any contact with Abrahamic beliefs. That is a a dangerous expectation, because it means that the creed presumes to be responsible for both believers and non-believers, when it would be proper instead for believers to be responsible for the beliefs, including their scope.

It is because both current mainstream Christianity, Islam and some other Abrahamic-influenced creeds such as the Bahai Faith inherited that expectation that we have most of our tensions involving creeds and religions. They have convinced themselves that they have a sacred duty to know better than the people they hope to convince.


Pauline Christianity - Wikipedia

Pauline Christianity or Pauline theology (also Paulism or Paulanity),[2] otherwise referred to as Gentile Christianity

There's so much I don't know - this can go forever...

Who's Paul in the bible compare to Thomas?

Thomas is one of the Apostles. Paul came decades later, claiming to have had a vision of Jesus and speaking quite a lot presumably on behalf of Jesus.

In many significant senses Paul is more responsible for the shaping of what is now known as Christianity than Jesus himself (if he did exist).


Did Paul and Thomas get along or did they debate and disagree with each other?

How did Paul and Thomas affect or effect India later?

I don't really know. Have they ever met? I don't think they did.

Paul is sometimes called an Apostle, but the Christian traditions make it clear that he was not among the twelve. Instead, he seems to be self-declared as an Apostle, unless you are willing to accept that his vision of a ressurrected Jesus is genuine and that Jesus somehow gave him that title.


Do I use affect or effect in that sentence. I yet need to look up those two words., affect or effect.

Roughly speaking, they have similar meanings, but "to affect" in some circunstances implies attempts at misdirection or misinformation, mostly out of emotional appeal. "To effect" suggests causing meaningful change.

Personally I tend to favor "to influence" as an alternative.


What are your thoughts about Paul and Thomas and their influences?

I don't really think too much about either.

I know that there are churches that trace their lineages directly to Thomas the Apostle while the Catholic Roman Church and some others trace theirs to Peter instead, but in all honesty that doesn't mean very much to me.

Paul, however, may or may not have been a literal person. But even if he isn't, he is either the author or the personification of the idea that Christianity should spread to all people. That is a powerful idea, which may well have been revolutionary at the time. And it very much comes with dangers and downsides which are unfortunately all too often neglected or taken as "unavoidable".
 

River Sea

Well-Known Member
My reason for looking up Fars, Iran, is that I'm in the middle of understanding a video. It also mentions the governor of Fars, Iran. This Fars, governor invades India and declares victory. This occurred many years after Moses had left the Indus Valley. When I'm confused about something, I slow down until I comprehend. Then, as I was looking up Fars, Iran, I wanted to see if Moses had traveled through Fars, Iran.

I looked up the location of Fars, Iran, to see if "Moses-Krishna" passed through it, as well as the distance between Fars, Iran, and Taftan Volcano, where Mount Sinai is located.

Fars Iran moses krishna did not travel through.JPG
 
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Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
Original hindu philosophy was peaceful. Moses made it violent. They came back violently.

Violence and conquest is the common trait of abrahamic religions. So they fight amongst them in the name of god as well
Since when is being hateful and spreading lies about other religions "peaceful"? There's many Hindus who are violent fanatics. People have been lynched in India over something as stupid as being suspected of having beef. Good grief. Fix your glass house.

Moses has nothing to do with Krishna or Hinduism at all, by the way.
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
Please write in simple english. Unable to grasp
Fallout sits as heavy metal in clouds. Clouds travel. It moves east after technology used in Multi countries all blew. Rained on them in the flooding.

Veda...Mayan American..Egyptian..Chinese.

Your male memory says our mind religion after wasn't as evilly thought as many others were.

Yet man blamed his brother in other countries when Multi countries all used the same technology.

How we lost mutual loving family trade.

How the dispute against his brothers began. Mnd pollution chemical imbalances
 

Elihoenai

Well-Known Member
What caused the Christian and Muslim invasions of India?
Genesis 1:27-28

27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.


Elohim's/God's Decree in Genesis to have Dominion over every living thing on the Earth.
 

River Sea

Well-Known Member
Muslim conquest : lack of horses in India
Christian conquest: Industrialization and Nationalization of Europe.

@sayak83
  • Please tell me more about why you think India didn't have enough horses to protect their country from being invaded. What if India had a lot of horses? I mean, horses are everywhere to be used, correct?
  • Also, what are the differences between the terms introverting and suppressing the people in India? Which word explains more? Example one doesn't claim Muslims are extroverts; they invade India; who's introverted, correct?
  • Also, what are your thoughts about Shankara? Did Shankara cause India not to industrialize due to suppression or introversion?
 

sayak83

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
@sayak83
  • Please tell me more about why you think India didn't have enough horses to protect their country from being invaded. What if India had a lot of horses? I mean, horses are everywhere to be used, correct?
  • Also, what are the differences between the terms introverting and suppressing the people in India? Which word explains more? Example one doesn't claim Muslims are extroverts; they invade India; who's introverted, correct?
  • Also, what are your thoughts about Shankara? Did Shankara cause India not to industrialize due to suppression or introversion?
Horses cannot be bred naturally in India due to the weather. In the middle ages horse cavalry was the most potent form of army, and lack of good horses caused Indian armies to perform poorly compared to Middle Eastern Armies. It's the same problem the Chinese had against the Mongols. This is not new. This has been happening with the Persians, the Bactrians Greeks, the Kushans and the Eastern Hunas before. The Afghan and Central Asian empires have always had the horse based battle ground advantage. The last groups happened to have been converted to Muslims. That is all.
Science | AAAS
 

Bharat Jhunjhunwala

TruthPrevails
Muslim conquest : lack of horses in India
Christian conquest: Industrialization and Nationalization of Europe.
There is plenty evidence of horses in gupta empire. See pic. Indians were Huge traders. They made best steel and exporter them.
 

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vulcanlogician

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Original hindu philosophy was peaceful. Moses made it violent. They came back violently.

Violence and conquest is the common trait of abrahamic religions. So they fight amongst them in the name of god as well

What about Krishna's answer to Arjuna's lamentations in the Gita? Didn't he say something to the effect of, "Quit whining. Stand up and destroy your enemies. Kill them without mercy, or else people will call you a coward."....?

I mean, I know there are deep analyses of the text (like Ghandi's) which synthesize Krishna's words with a nonviolent outlook, but at the same time, one can hardly blame Moses for every violent inclination within Hinduism. Not everyone reads the Gita like Ghandi did.
 
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