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What caused the Christian and Muslim invasions of India?

IndigoChild5559

IndigoChild5559

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Bharat Jhunjhunwala said:
Spreading is OK. But by love or conquest?
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I don't think love has anything to do with it. Worst case scenario, sheer greed and hatred of what is different. Best case scenario: the belief that your culture is superior to others and therefore you feel justified in imposing it.
 
Soandso

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soulsurvivor said:
Bad Karma. Countries with good karma will rarely get invaded. India had a lot of bad karma accumulated over the years because of its treatment of the lower castes and untouchables: Individual Karma and Group Karma
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Huh. If that's true, what did the pre contact tribes of North America do to deserve getting wiped out en masse? We are talking about an entire continent's worth of people with various different nations and cultures on that continent
 
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soulsurvivor

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Soandso said:
Huh. If that's true, what did the pre contact tribes of North America do to deserve getting wiped out en masse? We are talking about an entire continent's worth of people with various different nations and cultures on that continent
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I never said victims of invasions deserved it. However, if the victims already had a just, egalitarian and civilized society and treated each other with fairness and kindness, the chances of being invaded and wiped out are small. There can be exceptions, but most things that happen to people are the result of karma. The gods are not as capricious as people tend to believe.
 
Audie

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Bharat Jhunjhunwala said:
The Hebrews left Mitsrayim to face a number of entrenched people such as Edomites. The Hebrews believed they had a special relationship with God above others. That brought resistance from others a counter violence from Hebrews.
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Why does any of that matter?
 
IndigoChild5559

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
Bharat Jhunjhunwala said:
The Hebrews left Mitsrayim to face a number of entrenched people such as Edomites. The Hebrews believed they had a special relationship with God above others. That brought resistance from others a counter violence from Hebrews.
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The stories of the Torah notwithstanding, you might be curious to know that modern archaeology says that there was no conquest. The Israelites apparently became dominant in the area, but not through warfare.
 
Audie

Audie

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IndigoChild5559 said:
The stories of the Torah notwithstanding, you might be curious to know that modern archaeology says that there was no conquest. The Israelites apparently became dominant in the area, but not through warfare.
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Moldy history of things that didnt
even happen.
 
ajay0

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Ancient India had also suffered invasions from the Greek polytheists under Alexander as well as the Huns who were also considered to be polytheistic, as well as the animist Mongols . So it was not just Christian and Islamic invaders.

Essentially, the various kingdoms and kings in India fought for imperial status, and that is how famous Indian emperors like Chandragupta Maurya, Bindusara, Ashoka the Great, Samudragupta and Vikramaditya came up.

But such reigns by imperial emperors were not present at all times. As long as there was a strong imperial ruler , India was usually safe from foreign invasions.

With increasing time and vast periods of great prosperity and peace, complacency and a lackadaisical approach also came up, which resulted in lack of preparedness against foreign invasions.

Arrogance of the superiority of their traditional political and military systems also prevented the Indians from keeping abreast or informed of the military, sociological and political developments and best practices in other countries, and learning from them and updating their own systems.

For example, when the Mughal invader Babar came to India with cannons and guns, the Indian resistance was led by Rana Sanga armed with mere swords, javelins, bow and arrows and so on. The Indian cavalry came out superior in engagments but eventually the superior artillery of the adversary prevailed.

This was the case also with the western invasions using Indian mercenaries who were trained in modern warfare, and who were able to subjugate the Indian kingdoms.

The two world wars which originated in Europe and lead to heavy fighting between the European nations were factors which substantially weakened them and enabled the countries in Asia, Africa and South America to regain their independence again.
 
IndigoChild5559

IndigoChild5559

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River Sea said:
@Bharat Jhunjhunwala
Recently, I've been learning about merging. Can you help me with this, please, because you @Bharat Jhunjhunwala showed the word violent? How many years was violent due to Moses?

Example about merging: Aryans merging 300 BC into Ancient India. Am I understanding correctly?
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In the clause "Aryans merging 300 BC into Ancient India," the word merging refers to the process of integration or assimilation of the Aryan people into the society and culture of Ancient India around the year 300 BC. It suggests that the Aryans, who were a group of people from Central Asia, gradually blended or united with the existing civilizations of the Indian subcontinent, influencing its culture, language, and social structure.

Can you explain how merging applies to Moses?
 
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