What did jesus do?

[blackout]

The scapegoat takes the sins of the tribe upon it and is subsequently killed or "banished" I don't think Satan did this.
The Jesus myth, however, duplicates the tribal scape-goat tradition exactly, on an extended scale.

You don't think Satan has been "banished"?

(for "taking on" the sins/stupidities/misses of one or more tribes or another?)
Just a thought.

 

[Christian Pilgrim]

You don't think Satan has been "banished"?

(for "taking on" the sins/stupidities/misses of one or more tribes or another?)
Just a thought.

In biblical Christianity, Jesus Christ is the scapegoat.

 

[DallasApple]

I thought Satan was the scapegoat. :cover:

You mean Eve?

Love

Dallas

 

[blackout]

In biblical Christianity, Jesus Christ is the scapegoat.

I realize this.
There is no need to try and "teach me" christianity.
I did the gig for YEARS.... and quite devoutly I might add.

Was just presenting a differing perspective.
Hope that's ok.

 

[blackout]

You mean Eve?

Love

Dallas

Yeah honey.... her too. :sarcastic

(gotta love it)

 

[DallasApple]

ok so when is he coming back, can you give me any type of yearly range?

I think Paul thought it was in his lifetime.Thats why he told people it was better not to get maried.

Love

Dallas

 

[blackout]

I think Paul thought it was in his lifetime.Thats why he told people it was better not to get maried.

Love

Dallas

The ONLY wise thing the man ever said.

IMHO.

 

[black_jesus]

I cannot my friend since a thousand years is like a day, and a day is a thousand years to the Lord. I'm a mere human from the dust.

so does that mean it actually took 6,000 years to create the world ?

 

[Christian Pilgrim]

so does that mean it actually took 6,000 years to create the world ?

Maybe

 

[Christian Pilgrim]

I realize this.
There is no need to try and "teach me" christianity.
I did the gig for YEARS.... and quite devoutly I might add.

Was just presenting a differing perspective.
Hope that's ok.

I'm not trying to say these verses apply to you, but they sure came to mind with your comment.

Therefore let us leave the elementary doctrine of Christ and go on to maturity, not laying again a foundation of repentance from dead works and of faith toward God, and of instruction about washings, the laying on of hands, the resurrection of the dead, and eternal judgment. And this we will do if God permits. For it is impossible, in the case of those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, and have shared in the Holy Spirit, and have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the age to come, and then have fallen away, to restore them again to repentance, since they are crucifying once again the Son of God to their own harm and holding him up to contempt. For land that has drunk the rain that often falls on it, and produces a crop useful to those for whose sake it is cultivated, receives a blessing from God. But if it bears thorns and thistles, it is worthless and near to being cursed, and its end is to be burned. - Hebrews

 

[blackout]

I'm not trying to say these verses apply to you, but they sure came to mind with your comment.

Therefore let us leave the elementary doctrine of Christ and go on to maturity, not laying again a foundation of repentance from dead works and of faith toward God, and of instruction about washings, the laying on of hands, the resurrection of the dead, and eternal judgment. And this we will do if God permits. For it is impossible, in the case of those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, and have shared in the Holy Spirit, and have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the age to come, and then have fallen away, to restore them again to repentance, since they are crucifying once again the Son of God to their own harm and holding him up to contempt. For land that has drunk the rain that often falls on it, and produces a crop useful to those for whose sake it is cultivated, receives a blessing from God. But if it bears thorns and thistles, it is worthless and near to being cursed, and its end is to be burned. - Hebrews

Please do not try and sugarcoat what you are saying to me here.

You know absolutely NOTHING about me... or my experience of gOd...
or Spirit... or Life... or christianity. nothing.
You know nothing, nothing,
nothing of the three months PLUS of heightened reality.... epiphany I lived in...
or anything that followed.

After this post I will no longer dialogue with you as friend...
and I predict that your veneer will not keep you here long.
Your arrogance and presumption has spoken.

Your judgemental motivation is completely clear.

 

[Quagmire]

I'm not trying to say these verses apply to you, but they sure came to mind with your comment.

Therefore let us leave the elementary doctrine of Christ and go on to maturity, not laying again a foundation of repentance from dead works and of faith toward God, and of instruction about washings, the laying on of hands, the resurrection of the dead, and eternal judgment. And this we will do if God permits. For it is impossible, in the case of those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, and have shared in the Holy Spirit, and have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the age to come, and then have fallen away, to restore them again to repentance, since they are crucifying once again the Son of God to their own harm and holding him up to contempt. For land that has drunk the rain that often falls on it, and produces a crop useful to those for whose sake it is cultivated, receives a blessing from God. But if it bears thorns and thistles, it is worthless and near to being cursed, and its end is to be burned. - Hebrews

Sooooo.... Jesus was kidding when he talked about the Prodigal Son?

 

[Christian Pilgrim]

Sooooo.... Jesus was kidding when he talked about the Prodigal Son?

Good point! There's quite a bit in Scripture. Maybe the Prodigal was an Elect Prodigal since He was a Son in Scripture?

 

[Quagmire]

Good point! There's quite a bit in Scripture. Maybe the Prodigal was an Elect Prodigal since He was a Son in Scripture?

Jesus used the parable in answer to the Pharisees when they made an issue of him hanging out with "sinners and tax collectors", i.e., just your normal, garden variety less than perfect human beings.

The word "elect" or anything that can be interpreted to mean "elect" is completely absent from the story.

In fact, did Jesus ever use the term himself, anywhere?

 

[Quagmire]

In fact, did Jesus ever use the term himself, anywhere?

OK, quick answer since I'm almost out of time for now; yes he did, in quite a few places, which means if he had intended the moral of the parable to just apply to the "elect" he would have said so.

 

[Valjean]

You don't think Satan has been "banished"?

(for "taking on" the sins/stupidities/misses of one or more tribes or another?)
Just a thought.

Being kicked out as punishment or just to get rid of a troublemaker is a whole different thing than being sent off carrying the tribe's sins, to cleanse and thus benefit the tribe.

Jesus is like a vacuum bag. He collects and holds your house's dirt. When you deposit Him in the dustbin/trashcan your sins are carried away to the tip/dump.