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What do people think "atheist" means?

McBell

Unbound
How many words in any language refer to "quite simply" a lack of belief in anything? Virtually none. There are no words for lack of belief in unicorns, lack of belief in elves, lack of belief in biomedical model of psychiatry, lack of belief in quantum consciousness, lack of belief in stupid asinine assertions made by ignorant members of online discussion boards (such as yours truly), etc. Why the special treatment for atheism?
Could it possibly be because of the nonsense from theists?

Naw, that could not possibly be it....
 

LegionOnomaMoi

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Could it possibly be because of the nonsense from theists?
Perhaps because your ignorance of the nature of language, etymology, and lexical semantics prevents you from understanding that logic, rationality, and similar formal approaches are as bereft of utility here as your sarcastic idiocy is. Language doesn't adhere to logic but to pragmatics, to usage effects, to schematization, and to other processes you know as little of as you indicate with your little and laughable post. I'd cite sources, but as you've neither the wit, access, familiarity, nor expertise to even evaluate them, what's the point?
 

McBell

Unbound
Perhaps because your ignorance of the nature of language, etymology, and lexical semantics prevents you from understanding that logic, rationality, and similar formal approaches are as bereft of utility here as your sarcastic idiocy is. Language doesn't adhere to logic but to pragmatics, to usage effects, to schematization, and to other processes you know as little of as you indicate with your little and laughable post. I'd cite sources, but as you've neither the wit, access, familiarity, nor expertise to even evaluate them, what's the point?
Yes, that must be it.
I mean, there is no way you could be mistaken, let alone wrong.

One wonders if you honestly think your above personal attack of a reply helps your "argument"?

Though I do give you credit for making it sound all sophisticated.
Much more interesting a read than "i am smarter than you so there!"
though that is all you are really saying in your above quoted post.
 

LegionOnomaMoi

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Wow.
Now you want others to do your homework?
And you not only haven't done yours, you've quite clearly indicated you haven't the foggiest notion of what it might entail. Congratulations. You've made an otherwise entirely respectable, intellectually defensible, and logically founded approach into fallacious nonsense. But you typically apply such methods when challenged: it's easier to use sarcasm, present no argument, and accuse the other side of having made problematic arguments you typically avoid specifying (lest you be caught in your own would-be traps).
 

McBell

Unbound
And you not only haven't done yours, you've quite clearly indicated you haven't the foggiest notion of what it might entail. Congratulations. You've made an otherwise entirely respectable, intellectually defensible, and logically founded approach into fallacious nonsense. But you typically apply such methods when challenged: it's easier to use sarcasm, present no argument, and accuse the other side of having made problematic arguments you typically avoid specifying (lest you be caught in your own would-be traps).
Actually, unlike yourself, I do not hide behind big fancy words.
You have long drawn out posts that actually say very little.

If you think your pose of higher intelligence fools me any, you are sadly mistaken.
 

LegionOnomaMoi

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Actually, unlike yourself, I do not hide behind big fancy words.
No, you can't manage that. You hide behind sarcasm and ignorance. You present no evidence, no logic, no arguments, but snide comments to indicate attempts at superiority that you are incapable of.
 

McBell

Unbound
No, you can't manage that. You hide behind sarcasm and ignorance. You present no evidence, no logic, no arguments, but snide comments to indicate attempts at superiority that you are incapable of.
What claim do I need to support?
Please be so kind as to point them out.
 

LegionOnomaMoi

Veteran Member
Premium Member
If you think your pose of higher intelligence fools me any
I don't think you capable of evaluating my posts that you criticize. The lack of any argument you've ever managed to present to any of the such posts would be an indication to most, and the content of mine and the lack of any would-be argument in your responses should be an indication to all of the nature of your attempts at presenting something remotely resembling a defensible argument.
 

McBell

Unbound
I assert that your method is to avoid anything remotely resembling argumentation, and you counter this by affirming it. Congratulations.
You were flat out asked to present the claims you claim I should support and you did not present anything other than overflowery insults.
Care to try again or are you content being a hypocrite?
 

LegionOnomaMoi

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Careful, your hypocrisy is showing.
I have disagreed with many on this forum, but can count on less than the fingers on one hand I have regarded as so lacking in anything remotely resembling value that I've put them on ignore. Congratulations. You've made the cut.
 

McBell

Unbound
I have disagreed with many on this forum, but can count on less than the fingers on one hand I have regarded as so lacking in anything remotely resembling value that I've put them on ignore. Congratulations. You've made the cut.
So you put me on ignore because you cannot present the claims you claim I should support?
Sad really, with that huge vocabulary of big words you throw around all the time.
 

McBell

Unbound
I have disagreed with many on this forum, but can count on less than the fingers on one hand I have regarded as so lacking in anything remotely resembling value that I've put them on ignore. Congratulations. You've made the cut.
What really makes this post of yours so comical is that YOU attacked me for commenting on another members post, then use said exchange to justify your putting me on ignore.

Why not simply put me on ignore with out the exchange that makes you look so foolish?
 

Willamena

Just me
Premium Member
But only so far as that knowledge can actually be externally demonstrated. Just having an unsupported belief that your so-called knowledge is true doesn't actually make it true and claiming that's how it works is painfully circular.
If it's knowledge, it's past tense.

Edit: What I mean is, if it's knowledge then it's already true. If it has no truth value, such that it has to be demonstrated, then it's not knowledge.
 
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`mud

Just old
Premium Member
About that year, graduated in 54, coulda been sept 54.
I preferred pepsi at the time....on to MIT.
MIT didn't work out.....
but the fair was nice, it was in '54, Graduation !!
~
'mud
 

Willamena

Just me
Premium Member
About that year, graduated in 54, coulda been sept 54.
I preferred pepsi at the time....on to MIT.
MIT didn't work out.....
but the fair was nice, it was in '54, Graduation !!
~
'mud
I graduated in '78.

I feel so young, now.
 
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