What do you do with missing evidence? Like the global dirth of mid Jurassic fossils

[Wandering Monk]

actually the samples were sent to a lab and not done by Austin

1. Austin sent his samples to a laboratory that clearly states that their equipment cannot accurately measure samples less than two million years old. All of the measured ages but one fall well under the stated limit of accuracy, so the method applied to them is obviously inapplicable. Since Austin misused the measurement technique, he should expect inaccurate results, but the fault is his, not the technique's. Experimental error is a possible explanation for the older date.
   
   
2. Austin's samples were not homogeneous, as he himself admitted. Any xenocrysts in the samples would make the samples appear older (because the xenocrysts themselves would be old). A K-Ar analysis of impure fractions of the sample, as Austin's were, is meaningless.

CD013.1: K-Ar dating of Mt. St. Helens dacite

 

[We Never Know]

Plenty of evidence... the white cliffs of Dover... the Giants causeway ... the Grand Canyon all remnants of the flood or the post flood ice age

We know smaller canyons can be cut in days. For example in Texas a mile long, 100's of yard wide and 50 foot deep canyon was carved in 3 days which was exposed in 2002 when extensive flooding of the Guadalupe River led to a huge amount of water going over the spillway from Canyon Lake reservoir and removing the sediment from the gorge.

Canyon Lake Gorge - Wikipedia


However that is not evidence a great flood covered earth and cut the grand canyon. If I remember correctly the great flood rose in 40 days and drained in over a year. Covering the highest mountain(MT Everest is 29,029 feet). Water rising that fast(29,029÷40=725 feet per day) wouldn't carve the grand canyon and water receding down slowly (29,029÷365=79 feet per day) wouldn't carve the grand canyon. Of course that's my opinion.

 

[Wandering Monk]

We know smaller canyons can be cut in days. For example in Texas a mile long, 100's of yard wide and 50 foot deep canyon was carved in 3 days which was exposed in 2002 when extensive flooding of the Guadalupe River led to a huge amount of water going over the spillway from Canyon Lake reservoir and removing the sediment from the gorge.

Canyon Lake Gorge - Wikipedia


However that is not evidence a great flood covered earth and cut the grand canyon. If I remember correctly the great flood rose in 40 days and drained in over a year. Covering the highest mountain(MT Everest is 29,029 feet). Water rising that fast(29,029÷40=725 feet per day) wouldn't carve the grand canyon and water receding down slowly (29,029÷365=79 feet per day) wouldn't carve the grand canyon. Of course that's my opinion.

So how would the run off of a massive flood just meander like the Colorado River does hear at Horseshoe Bend. You can see that it cut through many strata at this location. YECs would say those strata were laid down by Noah's Flood.

 

[We Never Know]

So how would the run off of a massive flood just meander like the Colorado River does hear at Horseshoe Bend. You can see that it cut through many strata at this location. YECs would say those strata were laid down by Noah's Flood.

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The water would be receding at 3 foot per hour evenly across the globe. There would be no great momentum run off with water receding at 3 feet per hour/79 feet per day.
The water draining evenly across earth would be like having a 5 gallon bucket full of water and poking a 16th inch/32nd inch hole in it near the bottom to drain it. The inside of the bucket representing the water covering earth. The water drains but not rapidly enough to even make a current on the inside of the bucket because it is slowly receding.

 

[Wandering Monk]

The water would be receding at 3 foot per hour evenly across the globe. There would be no great momentum run off with water receding at 3 feet per hour/79 feet per day.
The water draining evenly across earth would be like having a 5 gallon bucket full of water and poking a 16th inch/32nd inch hole in it near the bottom to drain it. The water drains but not rapidly enough to even make a current on the inside of the bucket because it is slowly receding.

So many unidentified assumptions and calculations here.

 

[We Never Know]

So many unidentified assumptions and calculations here.

Not at all. The water of a great flood would recede evenly all over earth at 79 feet per day which isn't much compared to the size of earth. It wouldn't rapidly drain like rivers at one or several places. It would slowly evenly drain every where. Another comparison would be a lake drying up over time. The water levels throughout the lake would slowly and evenly recede not cutting canyons in its banks or any where in the lake. It would slowly recede down the sides, across it and dry up.

 

[We Never Know]

Not at all. The water of a great flood would recede evenly all over earth at 79 feet per day which isn't much compared to the size of earth. It wouldn't rapidly drain like rivers at one or several places. It would slowly evenly drain every where. Another comparison would be a lake drying up over time. The water levels throughout the lake would slowly and evenly recede not cutting canyons in its banks or any where in the lake. It would slowly recede down the sides, across it and dry up.

Let me add to this. If the lake was 180 feet deep and slowly drains over a year, that's only 5 inches per day.

 

[Bob the Unbeliever]

We know smaller canyons can be cut in days. For example in Texas a mile long, 100's of yard wide and 50 foot deep canyon was carved in 3 days which was exposed in 2002 when extensive flooding of the Guadalupe River led to a huge amount of water going over the spillway from Canyon Lake reservoir and removing the sediment from the gorge.

Canyon Lake Gorge - Wikipedia


However that is not evidence a great flood covered earth and cut the grand canyon. If I remember correctly the great flood rose in 40 days and drained in over a year. Covering the highest mountain(MT Everest is 29,029 feet). Water rising that fast(29,029÷40=725 feet per day) wouldn't carve the grand canyon and water receding down slowly (29,029÷365=79 feet per day) wouldn't carve the grand canyon. Of course that's my opinion.

Yes-- but not through solid rock, as was the case with the Grand Canyon.

 

[We Never Know]

Yes-- but not through solid rock, as was the case with the Grand Canyon.

The one in Texas cut through limestone. The grand canyon 3 main are limestone, sandstone and shale.

 

[Bob the Unbeliever]

So how would the run off of a massive flood just meander like the Colorado River does hear at Horseshoe Bend. You can see that it cut through many strata at this location. YECs would say those strata were laid down by Noah's Flood.

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Indeed. The YEC's are wrong about that, too.

In fact? YEC's have been consistently shown to be wrong about every single claim they make.

Even their biblical claims? Are not supported by the people who wrote the very book they refer to!

Ask any Rabbi-- the contemporary representatives of the original authors of the book, that YEC's consistently misuse.

IT's not their book-- it's no wonder YEC's don't understand a single word of it!

 

[Wandering Monk]

The one in Texas cut through limestone. The grand canyon 3 main are limestone, sandstone and shale.

Which one in Texas?

 

[Wandering Monk]

CH581: Carving the Grand Canyon

 

[We Never Know]

So many unidentified assumptions and calculations here.

You do realize rivers run to sea level/low points.
With a great flood all over earth evenly receding at 79 feet per day, rivers won't run rapid or far per day

 

[Wandering Monk]

You do realize rivers run to sea level/low points.
With a great flood all over earth evenly receding at 79 feet per day, rivers won't run rapid or far per day

How much water, over what area? Let's see the calculations for the numbers you keep posting.

 

[We Never Know]

How much water, over what area? Let's see the calculations for the numbers you keep posting.

Per your bible about the great flood.

Earth was completely covered with water in 40 days. Earth's highest point is 29,029 feet. 29,029÷40=725.73 feet of rise per day.
It receded in roughly a year. 29,029÷365=79.53 feet receding per day.

The receding would be evenly all over earth.

 

[Wandering Monk]

Per your bible about the great flood.

Earth was completely covered with water in 40 days. Earth's highest point is 29,029 feet. 29,029÷40=725.73 feet of rise per day.
It receded in roughly a year. 29,029÷365=79.53 feet receding per day.

The receding would be evenly all over earth.

So where did all the water go then?

 

[We Never Know]

So where did all the water go then?

It all ran south .

Earth was never covered so all that wster was never there.

 

[Wandering Monk]

It all ran south .

Earth was never covered so all that wster was never there.

Huh? Not following this. Are you saying that the entire earth was not covered by the Flood? Please clarify.

 

[We Never Know]

Huh? Not following this. Are you saying that the entire earth was not covered by the Flood? Please clarify.

Yes. I'm saying the great flood of noah is a myth.

 

[Wandering Monk]

Yes. I'm saying the great flood of noah is a myth.

So why are you defending YEC talking points about the Flood?