What do you feel is wrong with atheism?

[3.14]

why do people actualy still worship gods i mean they do not show themselfs they do not answer prayers if you make it mad he/she will cause harm, if you worship it it does not grant you favors, the only time you may see him would be after death and then he may or may not give you a happy afterlife.

you would be better of worshiping a tomato plant atleast when you pray to that you will get some more tomatoes do to your exhaling on it

ps atheists just buy there tomatoes

 

[Smoke]

a famous scientist once said: small knowledge of science makes one a athiest but indepth knowledge of science makes one a believer of god.

Francis Bacon was not a scientist; he was a philosopher of sorts.

 

[Willamena]

why do people actualy still worship gods i mean they do not show themselfs they do not answer prayers if you make it mad he/she will cause harm, if you worship it it does not grant you favors, the only time you may see him would be after death and then he may or may not give you a happy afterlife.

you would be better of worshiping a tomato plant atleast when you pray to that you will get some more tomatoes do to your exhaling on it

*psst* the tomato plant is God showing himself.

 

[Scuba Pete]

*psst* the tomato plant is God showing himself.

And she is pisssssed! You shoulda had that V8 after all!

 

[logician]

a famous scientist once said: small knowledge of science makes one a athiest but indepth knowledge of science makes one a believer of god. for their to be a creation there must be a creator

Except that studies done of both English and American scientists indicate the vast majority are atheists.

 

[Willamena]

Except that studies done of both English and American scientists indicate the vast majority are atheists.

Source? "Teen" Magazine?

 

[Magic Man]

Source? "Teen" Magazine?

I can't give any sources, but I have read that several places. I think it was in the book I just read, but I'd have to check.

 

[Willamena]

I'm sorry, logician, that was rude of me, but the stat seems to carry all the weight of "something I heard long ago."

 

[Scuba Pete]

Source? "Teen" Magazine?

Bwahahahahaha! Bwahahahahahahahahaha! All these conclusions that are based on assumptions are the forte' of the person who only claims to live by logic and fact.

In the end, much of what we believe is nothing more than a crap shoot. It's the utter irony of life in the present day.

I have no facts, other than my own experiences to base this on. Like most everyone, I live my life on FAITH.

 

[Willamena]

I can't give any sources, but I have read that several places. I think it was in the book I just read, but I'd have to check.

Yeah; and you've been reading Creationist' books.

 

[logician]

Source? "Teen" Magazine?

Source, Dawkins, "The God Delusion".

 

[Magic Man]

Yeah; and you've been reading Creationist' books.

Actually it was a book in reaction to the "New Atheists" like Dawkins. I could be wrong, but it was either in there or a book of letters between C.S. Lewis and Freud.

 

[Willamena]

...a book of letters between C.S. Lewis and Freud.

Now that sounds interesting. I wish I time to read more.

 

[Scuba Pete]

Actually it was a book in reaction to the "New Atheists" like Dawkins. I could be wrong, but it was either in there or a book of letters between C.S. Lewis and Freud.

Are you referring to the Screwtape Letters? That's a fictional book of Letters from a senior temptor, Screwtape to his nephew, Wormwood! Great reading!

 

[PureX]

For me, what's wrong with atheism is that it's unprovable and meaningless, while theism is unprovable, too, it's at least hopeful. I remain agnostic so that I can have the better of both concepts.

 

[Smoke]

Except that studies done of both English and American scientists indicate the vast majority are atheists.

Source? "Teen" Magazine?

It depends on what you mean by "scientist." When Creationists compile lists of scientists who believe in god and Creationism, they often include such "scientists" as computer scientists and third grade science teachers. Even at the highest levels of scientific academia, you can find some scientists who believe in god. However, it's generally true that the more eminent scientists are less likely to believe in god.

A 1998 survey of members of the National Academy of Sciences who work in the fields of biological and physical sciences (including mathematicians, physicists and astronomers) found that only 7% were believers, while 72% were atheists. Compared to earlier surveys, that indicated a steady decline in belief.

Source: Nature, "Leading scientists still reject God"  July 23, 1998

In The God Delusion, Richard Dawkins cites an article by Paul Bell in the UK edition of Mensa Magazine (Feb 2002). Bell reviewed 43 studies done between 1927 and 2002 and found that 39 out of 43 reported an inverse relationship between intelligence and religiosity. The more intelligent you are, and the better educated you are, the less likely you are to be a believer. There are still some believers who are very intelligent and very well educated, of course, but there's not a whole lot of doubt about the overall picture.

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[fantome profane]

I could be wrong, but it was either in there or a book of letters between C.S. Lewis and Freud.

I could be wrong but I don’t believe that it is true that Lewis and Freud ever actually corresponded, but there was a PBS special called “The Question of God” where they took the writings of these two people and put them together as if they were having a conversation, or a debate. I found it very interesting.

 

[Willamena]

A 1998 survey of members of the National Academy of Sciences who work in the fields of biological and physical sciences (including mathematicians, physicists and astronomers) found that only 7% were believers, while 72% were atheists. Compared to earlier surveys, that indicated a steady decline in belief.

Ah, so "atheism" is defined here as "personal disbelief in a personal God." Okay. By that definition, even I am an atheist.

In The God Delusion, Richard Dawkins cites an article by Paul Bell in the UK edition of Mensa Magazine (Feb 2002). Bell reviewed 43 studies done between 1927 and 2002 and found that 39 out of 43 reported an inverse relationship between intelligence and religiosity. The more intelligent you are, and the better educated you are, the less likely you are to be a believer. There are still some believers who are very intelligent and very well educated, of course, but there's not a whole lot of doubt about the overall picture.

I'm sorry, but the only rational conclusion I can draw from this is that Richard Dawkins has "not a whole lot of doubt about the overall picture."

 

[Magic Man]

I could be wrong but I don’t believe that it is true that Lewis and Freud ever actually corresponded, but there was a PBS special called “The Question of God” where they took the writings of these two people and put them together as if they were having a conversation, or a debate. I found it very interesting.

Nope, you're not wrong. I didn't mean to imply that they corresponded directly. "The Question of God" is the book I was referring to. I haven't finished it, but it is very interesting. Maybe you should pick it up, Willamena, if it sounds interesting to you.

 

[logician]

Ah, so "atheism" is defined here as "personal disbelief in a personal God." Okay. By that definition, even I am an atheist.


I'm sorry, but the only rational conclusion I can draw from this is that Richard Dawkins has "not a whole lot of doubt about the overall picture."

There were several other studies that Dawkins mentioned in his book not yet mentioned that had a very high percentage of scientists inteviewed claiming to be atheists. Statistically speaking, it's a slam dunk.