What do you teach your children?

[Archer]

Why don't you like it, because god doesn't?

Because it is in my nature not to. I cant explain it but I honestly feel it has to do with my brain chemistry and children. I hear a lot of people say they are gay because they are wired that way. I am wired for preservation of my blood line and therefore a dislike for what can threaten it.

 

[Skwim]

Because it is in my nature not to. I cant explain it but I honestly feel it has to do with my brain chemistry and children.

So it isn't much different than disliking cottage cheese. And how do children figure into it?

I hear a lot of people say they are gay because they are wired that way. I am wired for preservation of my blood line and therefore a dislike for what can threaten it.

You feel your bloodline is threatened by homosexuality? Do you feel you could easily be lured into it, or are you afraid one of your children may turn out to be homosexual, which might be the end of your blood line?

 

[Archer]

So it isn't much different than disliking cottage cheese. And how do children figure into it?

You feel your bloodline is threatened by homosexuality? Do you feel you could easily be lured into it, or are you afraid one of your children may turn out to be homosexual, which might be the end of your blood line?

I think my post was pretty clear and I don't want to write a book. I thought adout it one time and the idea if sexual relations with a man honestly turns my stomach. And yes the rest of your post about my kids is pretty much dead on. The only way I know of that is factual and can be proven to reach immortality is to spread my genes.

 

[Otherright]

in regards to homosexuality/same sex marriage?

As we all should know, children are blank slates when young. They don't see differences in color or ethnicity. They see another child or person and that's it. Young children, if left to their own devices, are not going to be taken aback by two men or two women holding hands or even kissing. The concept of a friend of theirs having two mommies or two daddies isn't really a hard concept. They just tend to see families. The question then becomes, do you foster that innocent and equal view of the world, or do you impose your own sets of beliefs and stances on your children, perhaps encouraging yet another generation of prejudice and bigotry?

I maintain that it isn't really that hard to simply explain to children from a very young age that sometimes men and women fall in love and have a family and sometimes two men do and sometimes two women do. That it's all just different types of families and they all love each other. To teach your children otherwise only creates and fosters hate and intolerance.

So...do you foster love and acceptance in your children, or hate and prejudice? Think about it.

I teach my children the same way my mother taught me. Love is what it is, it does not know gender, race, age, or creed.

I was actually quiet proud of my eldest son, when at the age of five made a great distinction. A girl in his kindergarten class has only one arm. Actually, the child is the daughter of a close friend of mine, but my son didn't know the daughter.

Some children were teasing her about her having only one arm and my son piped in with, "God creates everyone differently." They ended up being close friends.

My son's belief in God, however, does not match my own, but he is his own person with his own path. His religion will be his own choosing. How he treats other humans, will be of mine.

 

[Skwim]

I think my post was pretty clear and I don't want to write a book. I thought adout it one time and the idea if sexual relations with a man honestly turns my stomach. And yes the rest of your post about my kids is pretty much dead on. The only way I know of that is factual and can be proven to reach immortality is to spread my genes.

If nothing else, at least you're up front about your homophobic disgust and intolerance.

 

[Archer]

If nothing else, at least you're up front about your homophobic disgust and intolerance.

What happens outside my home that does not involve my blood line does not affect me.

 

[Draka]

What happens outside my home that does not involve my blood line does not affect me.

When people start talking of affecting/preserving bloodlines, it just makes me think of the whole "master race" BS. Would it really be that horrible for one of your children to be homosexual? You could have a homosexual child that ended up having kids (gays do that too you know) and a straight child who ended up either not wanting kids or not being able to have any. Considering that, would homosexuality really have any affect different than any other variable?

 

[Archer]

When people start talking of affecting/preserving bloodlines, it just makes me think of the whole "master race" BS. Would it really be that horrible for one of your children to be homosexual? You could have a homosexual child that ended up having kids (gays do that too you know) and a straight child who ended up either not wanting kids or not being able to have any. Considering that, would homosexuality really have any affect different than any other variable?

I think I already stated my reasons and it had nothing to do with that.

 

[Draka]

I think I already stated my reasons and it had nothing to do with that.

Actually, your first post pretty much made sense. But as soon as you got into the whole threatening of your bloodline...well it just sounded crazy. So what do you mean by avoiding things which threaten your bloodline and how in the world does homosexuality do such a thing?

 

[Archer]

I keep myself and my children away from it. I don't have television either. This everybody is ok crap is not promoted in my home.

 

[Songbird]

I keep myself and my children away from it. I don't have television either. This everybody is ok crap is not promoted in my home.

The irony between your comment and your signature cracks me up.

 

[Sunstone]

The irony between your comment and your signature cracks me up.

Why Oh Why didn't I save my frubal for this comment of yours? Perfect.

 

[Songbird]

Why Oh Why didn't I save my frubal for this comment of yours? Perfect.

Ha, thanks!

 

[Gjallarhorn]

in regards to homosexuality/same sex marriage?

As we all should know, children are blank slates when young. They don't see differences in color or ethnicity.

I beg to differ:

Katz found that babies will stare significantly longer at photographs of faces that are a different race from their parents, indicating they find the face out of the ordinary. Race itself has no ethnic meaning per se—but children's brains are noticing skin-color differences and trying to understand their meaning.

Even Babies Discriminate: A NurtureShock Excerpt. - Newsweek

In those first months, babies would look at an attractive person of another race for just as long as an equally hot person of their race. But within a few short months, even if shown a supermodel of a different skin color, the baby would ignore her completely. If a white baby was shown two pictures of Asian people, of any level of attractiveness, the baby would look at them the same amount of time, then get bored and look away. To that white baby, Asian people all look alike.

6 Shockingly Evil Things Babies Are Capable Of | Cracked.com http://www.cracked.com/article_1840...ings-babies-are-capable-of.html#ixzz1RZQ7xcdZ
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[Draka]

I keep myself and my children away from it. I don't have television either. This everybody is ok crap is not promoted in my home.

And just how do you keep yourself and your children away from the "it"? Locked up in their rooms not allowed to go out and make friends and deal with reality? Just what is "it" anyway? Reality? The real world? People different than yourself? So you really do promote intolerance and prejudice in your children. How nice of you. How sad for your children. Perhaps they will be fortunate enough to realize how wrong their father is when they are older and make up their own minds to be tolerant and accepting of other people. Here's hoping anyway.

 

[Draka]

I beg to differ:

Even Babies Discriminate: A NurtureShock Excerpt. - Newsweek

6 Shockingly Evil Things Babies Are Capable Of | Cracked.com 6 Shockingly Evil Things Babies Are Capable Of | Cracked.com
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While that doesn't surprise me, as babies are just at the beginning of facial recognition and learning familiarity (though using Cracked is a strange choice of sources as it is a humor site), as children get older and pass that stage of learning their surroundings, they really don't seem to have issues with others different than them. Stick a bunch of 4 year olds together in a room with some toys and they don't tend to differentiate between races or ethnicities. They all play together with not much regard to differences at all. They also don't tend to make a big deal over whether a friend has a mommy and a daddy or just a daddy or just a mommy or two daddies or so on. Speaking from personal experience with my children, they just see different families and it doesn't seem to phase them at all if there's same sex parents or any other familial set up. They're just families.

 

[Archer]

And just how do you keep yourself and your children away from the "it"? Locked up in their rooms not allowed to go out and make friends and deal with reality? Just what is "it" anyway? Reality? The real world? People different than yourself? So you really do promote intolerance and prejudice in your children. How nice of you. How sad for your children. Perhaps they will be fortunate enough to realize how wrong their father is when they are older and make up their own minds to be tolerant and accepting of other people. Here's hoping anyway.

It is interesting. I find that people that act outside of social norms have some real issues. We (those who act within social norms) conform to society and it's norms because we want to get along in life without the issues of those who take their own path. When we have any issue with anything outside of the norm we are intolerant and prejudice but that is not necessarily the case. We have busted our ***** to maintain and prosper just to have someone come along and get protections because of who they sleep with? Gay rights? Get with it.

I am not wrong I am 100% correct and if a person wants to succeed in this world they will conform, somewhat to social norms. Some of the people here act like me and mine have to live like they want and treat them exactly like everyone else. Well that is part of the problem. Don't push people to accept things and you may find that you are more accepted.

At present I do not socialize with any openly gay people. I am not avoiding it, they are just not around. Now on television every other show has a gay in the cast of main charters. I don't see this in everyday life but it is on TV?

People telling me that I need to do things different where my children are concerned is a problem.

 

[LuisDantas]

Social norms are almost completely a blend of confortable fiction and force of habit, Archer. They are unreliable and insufficient to warrant adjustment, much less happiness.

 

[Archer]

Social norms are almost completely a blend of confortable fiction and force of habit, Archer. They are unreliable and insufficient to warrant adjustment, much less happiness.

That is one way to look at it. Here is another.

Let us say you are into body art. You have hoop earlobes and a plate on your lower lip. Can you work anywhere you want?

I know that is extreme and homosexual people are not generally different (other than sexual preference) than people that conform to the norm. They should not be discriminated against as far as work and such but they are at times.

 

[Archer]

The irony between your comment and your signature cracks me up.

Why? I just don't like it. Personal preference. People talk about freedom of choice and sexual freedom but it seems that whatever they choose they want everyone else to accept it. Well I simply refuse to accept it and that is my right.

Don't hate me for not accepting the choices of others and don't expect me to teach my children any different.