What do you think of smoking ?

[Kathryn]

The amount of money poured into anti smoking campaigns seems so short sighted.

Smokers know the pitfalls of smoking but most of the world are in ignorance or chosen ignorance of how bad things really are for the planet we live on,you could be a non smoking drinking health nut but its not going to save you when it comes to more important issues such as BBC News - Green decline 'may bring irreversible change' ,the money spent on anti smoking campaigns would be better spent on education about how we can maybe avoid Human extinction.

Both are important.

Have you ever loved anyone who died of oral cancer caused by smoking?

 

[helpmeplease]

I think you can recover at least some of the damage done. My kids are trying to stop smoking. I know it is hard.

When I was in the hospital next to a smoker beside me, the doctor noted that they had to put the patient next to me on oxygen and still were having a hard time getting the oxygen into his blood. Whereas for me although my breathing was very shallow I had no problems getting oxygen into my blood.

I'm more of a freedom lover in that I believe people should be free as much as possible to live life as they see fit. However I'm prejudice against cigarettes. I don't like telling others how they should live, but I don't like the smell, don't like being around smokers. So likely to vote against smokers, sorry.

You know when I'm in hospital I just don't smoke, big deal. My children don't smoke and never have, I get really sick of the propoganda. Neither my cardioligist nor my gp know that I smoke and neither do any of the doctors in hospital. Because I would rather they treat me than my smoking.

 

[helpmeplease]

Stop smoking is the new snake oil the new cure all. Rubbish.
It's much better to be the fittest corpse in the cemetery.

 

[BobbyisStrange]

Stop smoking is the new snake oil the new cure all. Rubbish.
It's much better to be the fittest corpse in the cemetery.

I am not a doctor so I cant make health claims...but i thought this was funny

 

[BobbyisStrange]

Both are important.

Have you ever loved anyone who died of oral cancer caused by smoking?

My grandfather died from lung cancer when I was 10...The most horrific memory in my life is I once had to give him his barf tub so he could spit after a coughing fit...I won’t go into details, but it has caused me to never smoke a cigarette.

 

[Kathryn]

You know when I'm in hospital I just don't smoke, big deal. My children don't smoke and never have, I get really sick of the propoganda. Neither my cardioligist nor my gp know that I smoke and neither do any of the doctors in hospital. Because I would rather they treat me than my smoking.

Here is a picture of the Nile:

Here is a picture of denial (till it was too late, anyway):

Wayne McLaren, the "Marlboro Man" dying of lung cancer caused by smoking, at age 51.

 

[Rocky S]

The harmful effects of smoking on the body and overall health of smokers presented in the list below, only begins to convey some of the short and long term side effects of smoking cigarettes.
Quitting makes sense for many reasons but simply put: smoking kills and the effects of second hand smoke are also bad for the health of those around you.
Harmful Health Effects of Smoking

• Every year hundreds of thousands of people around the world die from diseases caused by smoking cigarettes - Smoking KILLS.
• One in two lifetime smokers will die from their habit. Half of these deaths will occur in middle age.
• Tobacco smoke also contributes to a number of cancers.
• The mixture of nicotine and carbon monoxide in each cigarette you smoke temporarily increases your heart rate and blood pressure, straining your heart and blood vessels.
• This can cause heart attacks and stroke. It slows your blood flow, cutting off oxygen to your feet and hands. Some smokers end up having their limbs
  amputated.
• Tar coats your lungs like soot in a chimney and causes cancer. A 20-a-day smoker breathes in up to a full cup (210 g) of tar in a year.
• Changing to low-tar cigarettes does not help because smokers usually take deeper puffs and hold the smoke in for longer, dragging the tar deeper into their lungs.
• Carbon monoxide robs your muscles, brain and body tissue of oxygen, making your whole body and especially your heart work harder. Over time, your airways swell up and let less air into your lungs.
• Smoking causes disease and is a slow way to die. The strain of smoking effects on the body often causes years of suffering.
• Emphysema for example is an illness that slowly rots your lungs. People with emphysema often get bronchitis again and again, and suffer lung and heart failure.
• Lung cancer from smoking is caused by the tar in tobacco smoke.
• Men who smoke are ten times more likely to die from lung cancer than non-smokers.
• Heart disease and strokes are also more common among smokers than non-smokers.
• Smoking causes fat deposits to narrow and block blood vessels which leads to heart attack.
• Smoking causes around one in five deaths from heart disease.
• In younger people, three out of four deaths from heart disease are due to smoking
• Cigarette smoking during pregnancy increases the risk of low birth weight, prematurity, spontaneous abortion, and perinatal mortality in humans, which has been referred to as the fetal tobacco syndrome.

Reference : Health Effects of Smoking Cigarettes

The discussion,

Do smokers know that smoking may end their life with suffering of illness ?
Even though that manufacturers are forced to add a warning note that
smoking may cause a painful death,but still there are many smokers.

Just because something is harmful does not mean that people will stop doing it. Just like stuffing your face with fast food(which I do, I loves me some grilled greasy high cholesterol steroid injected dead cow)

 

[Kathryn]

I'll tell you what - I love to smoke. I love long, skinny menthol cigarettes. I wish they weren't harmful, because if they weren't so dangerous to my health and well being (and those around me), I can assure you I'd be a smokin' fool. Very relaxing and pleasant, especially after a long day, sitting out on the porch with a cold brew or a glass of wine.

I do not smoke for one reason only - and that is because I want to reduce my risk of developing or dying of some very grody forms of disease. Now - I may get hit by a truck tomorrow. I may develop diabetes, or leukemia or breast cancer (though not smoking also greatly reduces my chances of breast cancer and cancer in general), but I doubt very seriously that I will lose my lower jaw or half my tongue or spend the rest of my life talking through a hole in my throat.

 

[BobbyisStrange]

Here is a picture of the Nile:

Wayne McLaren, the "Marlboro Man" dying of lung cancer caused by smoking, at age 51.

if that isnt a powerful photo i dont know what is.

 

[helpmeplease]

I'll tell you what - I love to smoke. I love long, skinny menthol cigarettes. I wish they weren't harmful, because if they weren't so dangerous to my health and well being (and those around me), I can assure you I'd be a smokin' fool. Very relaxing and pleasant, especially after a long day, sitting out on the porch with a cold brew or a glass of wine.

I do not smoke for one reason only - and that is because I want to reduce my risk of developing or dying of some very grody forms of disease. Now - I may get hit by a truck tomorrow. I may develop diabetes, or leukemia or breast cancer (though not smoking also greatly reduces my chances of breast cancer and cancer in general), but I doubt very seriously that I will lose my lower jaw or half my tongue or spend the rest of my life talking through a hole in my throat.

Now you see Kathryn I can't see myself accepting those alternatives. Yeah well I screwed up and I'm gonna die if I don't let them take my bottom jaw, well I'm gonna die.

 

[Kathryn]

Now you see Kathryn I can't see myself accepting those alternatives. Yeah well I screwed up and I'm gonna die if I don't let them take my bottom jaw, well I'm gonna die.

It may not be that "simple" - it just may get harder and harder and harder for you to breathe - like you're drowning or smothering every day of your life.

You're quite cavalier about it and it's certainly your choice, and your right, to smoke. I just know from close proximity to it that dying of oral cancer caused by smoking is a very ugly, nasty, smelly, painful, and unfortunately slow way to die. And that's just the effect on the patient. Think about the family members as well.

 

[England my lionheart]

Both are important.

Have you ever loved anyone who died of oral cancer caused by smoking?

No i haven't but i've seen death through Liver Cancer and i doubt its worse than that,it just seems to me that anti-smoking is way down on the list of priorities that should concern us,just MO though.

 

[Kathryn]

No i haven't but i've seen death through Liver Cancer and i doubt its worse than that,it just seems to me that ant-smoking is way down on the list of priorities that should concern us,just MO though.

It's just that it's so easy to avoid such a painful, horrible death. And I do mean it's horrible. I lost an uncle to liver cancer as well (hey, he also smoked, now that I think of it), but my cousin who died of oral cancer - well, that was one of the worst possible ways I've ever witnessed.

In fact, he didn't actually die of the cancer. He shot his head off when he couldn't take it anymore. And his daughter got to find him.

Good times, good times...not. Bet they all wished he'd never smoked by the time it was all said and done.

 

[FearGod]

The amount of money poured into anti smoking campaigns seems so short sighted.

Smokers know the pitfalls of smoking but most of the world are in ignorance or chosen ignorance of how bad things really are for the planet we live on,you could be a non smoking drinking health nut but its not going to save you when it comes to more important issues such as BBC News - Green decline 'may bring irreversible change' ,the money spent on anti smoking campaigns would be better spent on education about how we can maybe avoid Human extinction.

i should bow for that great efforts done by the smoking campaigns.:bow:

Much much more are spent on smoking plus health expenses not mentioning
the worst thing of all which is losing one's life and it's effect on the whole
family.

My words to smokers,if you don't care about yourself,then think about how
much your family will be sad if they lost you and think how their life will be
after you have gone.

 

[helpmeplease]

It's just that it's so easy to avoid such a painful, horrible death. And I do mean it's horrible. I lost an uncle to liver cancer as well (hey, he also smoked, now that I think of it), but my cousin who died of oral cancer - well, that was one of the worst possible ways I've ever witnessed.

In fact, he didn't actually die of the cancer. He shot his head off when he couldn't take it anymore. And his daughter got to find him.

Good times, good times...not. Bet they all wished he'd never smoked by the time it was all said and done.

That is precisely my point it is not SO EASY to avoid. Many many smokers have done so, many many non smokers have not. Apparently it's the god you believe in who makes that decision.

 

[Nakosis]

You know when I'm in hospital I just don't smoke, big deal. My children don't smoke and never have, I get really sick of the propoganda. Neither my cardioligist nor my gp know that I smoke and neither do any of the doctors in hospital. Because I would rather they treat me than my smoking.

My wife smoked. She smoked around her kids while they were growing up. Nothing I could say could convince her to quit.

She finally did quit but she did it for herself. Not because anyone else wanted her to or the propaganda.

You have to do what you feel is right for you. I'm just happy she quit.

 

[England my lionheart]

It's just that it's so easy to avoid such a painful, horrible death. And I do mean it's horrible. I lost an uncle to liver cancer as well (hey, he also smoked, now that I think of it), but my cousin who died of oral cancer - well, that was one of the worst possible ways I've ever witnessed.

In fact, he didn't actually die of the cancer. He shot his head off when he couldn't take it anymore. And his daughter got to find him.

Good times, good times...not. Bet they all wished he'd never smoked by the time it was all said and done.

Maybe they did,i guess many people would agree in those circumstances,don't get me wrong,even though i smoke pure Tobacco i know how harmful it can be but in the scale of important things its a small thing.

 

[Kathryn]

That is precisely my point it is not SO EASY to avoid. Many many smokers have done so, many many non smokers have not. Apparently it's the god you believe in who makes that decision.

I decided to quit smoking. And I did quit smoking.

 

[ChristineES]

What kept me from smoking was the time my school showed two lungs hooked to a tank (this was back in the 70s) one was a healthy lung and the other was one from person who had died of emphysema (they didn't say how the person of the healthy lung died). The healthy lung looked fine but the one with emphysema looked bubbly and parts of it looked ready to pop. It scared me so much I went home and asked my mother to please quit smoking (something I never did again, I got screamed at by her- and I mean scream). I was 11 and in junior high at the time.

 

[Storm]

The amount of money poured into anti smoking campaigns seems so short sighted.

Smokers know the pitfalls of smoking but most of the world are in ignorance or chosen ignorance of how bad things really are for the planet we live on,you could be a non smoking drinking health nut but its not going to save you when it comes to more important issues such as BBC News - Green decline 'may bring irreversible change' ,the money spent on anti smoking campaigns would be better spent on education about how we can maybe avoid Human extinction.

Not to mention, the vast majority are so obnoxiously condescending that they make people light up out of sheer spite.