Goodness! If you want to smoke, go ahead. If you want to ignore the fact that it is unhealthy and even dangerous- go right ahead.
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What do you think of smoking ?
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helpmeplease
Member
I said many years ago that once the wowsers had convinced the powers that be to demonise smoking they would go after drinking, oh look it's happening. I must be in touch with god. There simply is no reason to live if I need to confirm to ridiculous rules developed by ridiculous people, because they think they are helping. Not a single person has exceeded their lifespan by doing anything at all
helpmeplease
Member
You see your preaching is misplaced. I do understand the dangers and choose to do it anyway. Just as I understand the dangers of living in a city and do it anyway. Just as I understood the dangers of working in an oil refinery and did it anyway. Just as I understand that 90% of all drivers should never drive a car, but I still travel by car. I'm sorry if I'm not afraid enough of death to meet your standards, but that's just the way I am and so are you except for smoking.
Yeah, why should we follow stupid rules? Why wear seat belts or motorcycle helmets? Why eat less fat and sugar? Why not jaywalk in heavy traffic? Why not swim in shark infested water? People only make stupid studies and make stupid rules because they want to help people. 
(Sorry about that, guys, sometimes I get in this sarcastic mood- I get it from my husband- )
(Sorry about that, guys, sometimes I get in this sarcastic mood- I get it from my husband-
)helpmeplease
Member
Wanna give me an example?
Preaching? I wasn't preaching. What standards? I don't even know you from Adam.
I was just saying that people can smoke if they want to, even if there's health risks- we all have choices and smoking is legal.
I never tell my sister to quit smoking, but I'll never take it up myself. helpmeplease
Member
OK I must have misunderstood.ChristinES said:
Koldo
Outstanding Member
Too late? Are you dead?
There is already research on this matter that says if you stop smoking your chances to suffer from lung cancer decreases compared to people who continue to smoke.
helpmeplease
Member
Look mate, I get it and I don't care, when I die I die. Should I wrap myself in cotton wool and never get out of bed because I might die? I thought it was only the ones who look forward to an everlasting paradise after death who were afraid of death? Go figure?Too late? Are you dead?
There is already research on this matter that says if you stop smoking your chances to suffer from lung cancer decreases compared to people who continue to smoke.
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
I posted the link to my statistics. Just because you say they're false really means nothing. Do you have a study that proves otherwise?
As for your smoking, I don't care if you smoke or not. I don't care if your house is filled with smoke, and your car, and your clothes and your hair and your lungs. Smoke on. I have no problem with it unless you infringe on the rights of others when you smoke.
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
It's your choice. It can also be your choice to stop smoking. Every time you light up, you make a choice and you have the complete freedom not to light that cigarette.
Koldo
Outstanding Member
I don't particularly care if you smoke or not. I just would like you to be properly informed. When you said it was too late to stop smoking, i merely pointed out this is not really true.
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
It's not just about dying, it's also about living.
I want to lower my chances of suffering thru lung cancer, throat cancer, oral cancer, OCPD, emphysema, etc.
I wear a seatbelt because I want to reduce my chances of having a scarred up face.
Speaking of vanity, I also don't smoke because I don't want those dried up looking lips, leathery skin, or to lose half my tongue to oral cancer. Not smoking significantly reduces the risk of any of those grody things happening to me.
But please - carry on.
I want to lower my chances of suffering thru lung cancer, throat cancer, oral cancer, OCPD, emphysema, etc.
I wear a seatbelt because I want to reduce my chances of having a scarred up face.
Speaking of vanity, I also don't smoke because I don't want those dried up looking lips, leathery skin, or to lose half my tongue to oral cancer. Not smoking significantly reduces the risk of any of those grody things happening to me.
But please - carry on.
helpmeplease
Member
And what rights would that be?
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
So I see that you have no sources to refute mine. I thought as much.
Non smokers should not have to breathe air that you have filled with your dirty, second hand smoke, which may harm them. That's why I prefer to go to establishments and places that protect me from being subjected to your toxic waste products.
Others may not care. Some businesses may not care either. That's fine. I just won't go there. It's all good.
helpmeplease
Member
And what sort of mask do you use in your normal daily travels? To prevent the carcinogens abundant in today's industrialised world? Or is it OK that our industrialised world can poison you, it's just the smokers that you don't like? Ever worked in an oil refinery?
Whoa I just noticed TEXAS, wow.
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
And what sort of mask do you use in your normal daily travels? To prevent the carcinogens abundant in today's industrialised world? Or is it OK that our industrialised world can poison you, it's just the smokers that you don't like? Ever worked in an oil refinery?
Whoa I just noticed TEXAS, wow.
As much as you try to justify things, there's simply not much more damaging than sucking tar, nicotine, and a slew of other chemicals along with scorching smoke, directly into your lungs through your mouth and throat.
You're simply adding insult to injury when you smoke in this world that mankind has polluted, and when you force others to breathe air that you've polluted even more by your smoking.
By the way, I like smokers just fine. I'm married to one. He does respect my right to breathe air that's free of his smoke, though, and is very considerate about it. He also respects that I don't want my house or clothes to stink.
I appreciate that a lot. Just one of the many reasons why I love my husband dearly, in spite of his smoking.
I think you can recover at least some of the damage done. My kids are trying to stop smoking. I know it is hard.
When I was in the hospital next to a smoker beside me, the doctor noted that they had to put the patient next to me on oxygen and still were having a hard time getting the oxygen into his blood. Whereas for me although my breathing was very shallow I had no problems getting oxygen into my blood.
I'm more of a freedom lover in that I believe people should be free as much as possible to live life as they see fit. However I'm prejudice against cigarettes. I don't like telling others how they should live, but I don't like the smell, don't like being around smokers. So likely to vote against smokers, sorry.
Draka
Wonder Woman
Question: What is the difference between smoking a cigarette next to a child or another non-smoker and forcively pouring some of your rum and coke down their throats? A harmful chemical taken by your own choice is one thing, a harmful chemical directly foisted on you by someone else is entirely different.
The amount of money poured into anti smoking campaigns seems so short sighted.
Smokers know the pitfalls of smoking but most of the world are in ignorance or chosen ignorance of how bad things really are for the planet we live on,you could be a non smoking drinking health nut but its not going to save you when it comes to more important issues such as BBC News - Green decline 'may bring irreversible change' ,the money spent on anti smoking campaigns would be better spent on education about how we can maybe avoid Human extinction.