What do you think of smoking ?

[helpmeplease]

CDC - Fact Sheet - Health Effects of Secondhand Smoke - Smoking & Tobacco Use

There is a higher incidence of Sudden Infant Death Syndrome with babies of smokers.

There is a higher incidence of serious asthma in children of smokers.

Children of smokers have a higher incidence of bronchitis and pneumonia.

Children of smokers have a nigher incidence of ear infections.

Honestly, this is just common sense. Your house is filled with smoke, you're going to have more breathing problems.

I understand that smoking is bad for me, I'm going to die. But the same can be said for conception, it guarantees death. If passive smoking related deaths are factual, then there should be statistics to prove the incidence is greater in hospitality industry workers, cos they are exposed to more second smoke than anyone. I've never seen those stats, have you?

 

[helpmeplease]

Lol, I was just teasing. I don't think there is anyone alive from the early 19th century...unless there are highlanders amongst us...or maybe the Count of St. Germain.

There can be only one.

 

[sojourner]

I used to smoke pipes and cigars. An altogether pleasant activity, when enjoyed at a cigar bar or at home. It's a ***** when trying to drive or when you're out somewhere.

BTW: Tell me again why this is in religious debates?

 

[Kathryn]

I understand that smoking is bad for me, I'm going to die. But the same can be said for conception, it guarantees death. If passive smoking related deaths are factual, then there should be statistics to prove the incidence is greater in hospitality industry workers, cos they are exposed to more second smoke than anyone. I've never seen those stats, have you?

Nope. But I've seen the stats on the effects of second hand smoke on kids, and that's what I'm discussing.

Look, I get it that everyone dies. Hell, I've pointed that out myself. My point though is that children should be protected til they are of an age and understanding to make the choice THEMSELVES - "Am I going to choose to smoke and raise my chances of dying of lung cancer/hypertension/OCPD?" Lung cancer in particular is a very nasty way of dying. So is throat or mouth cancer - HORRIBLE. I want to be able to do whatever I can to avoid those particular modes of death. I want to live as long as possible feeling as good as possible. Second hand smoke takes away some of those options for me.

 

[Kathryn]

I understand that smoking is bad for me, I'm going to die. But the same can be said for conception, it guarantees death. If passive smoking related deaths are factual, then there should be statistics to prove the incidence is greater in hospitality industry workers, cos they are exposed to more second smoke than anyone. I've never seen those stats, have you?

Heck, using your reasoning,why don't you just stand in a hot tub and ask someone to chunk an electrical appliance in there with you?

Or you could throw yourself under a truck. After all, we're all going to die anyway, right?

 

[The Sum of Awe]

Useless and very anyoning when people around me do it.

Even when they ask they know it is going to literaly stink for me and they also know I will look "bad" if I say no.

If you are going to smoke, do it with other smokers, and dont even ask a stranger or anyone who is not a close friend if you can smoke, because you are really not giving him much of a choice.

If it were that simple, people wouldn't have to do it. Addiction is addiction.

 

[The Sum of Awe]

What I think of it is: Who in the world would wrap up a bunch of dangerous chemicals with addictive nicotine? The person who invented it obviously all in support of destroying earth.

I smoke so I can't really say it's bad, that'd be hypocritical for me.

But the only thing I think one has right to smoke, is marijuana... as long as they share of course

 

[FearGod]

You know what cracks me up?

The death rate is at 100 percent. We're all going to die of something.

The issue with smoking though is that it does create particularly bad ways of dying - and not just for the smoker, but also for those subjected to second hand smoke - especially children.

I do think there should be laws in place to protect children from smokers. I hate to even type those words because I can feel NANNY STATE LAWS all over that idea, but damn...little babies and smoke, pregnant women who smoke, kids stuck in a car breathing second hand smoke...it's really sad and VERY harmful to them. They have no choice in the matter.

It's a tough problem.

i do agree with you,the smoker should be kind enough to smoke far away and the pregnant
woman should think about her child,much better to have fresh air and good foods.

 

[FearGod]

I used to smoke pipes and cigars. An altogether pleasant activity, when enjoyed at a cigar bar or at home. It's a ***** when trying to drive or when you're out somewhere.

BTW: Tell me again why this is in religious debates?

i had put a question which was deleted by mods, they thought that it was kind of proselytizing,that's mods decision :bow:,so i cant show the question one more time,my apology

 

[FearGod]

Heck, using your reasoning,why don't you just stand in a hot tub and ask someone to chunk an electrical appliance in there with you?

Or you could throw yourself under a truck. After all, we're all going to die anyway, right?

Good point,not a wise reasoning,you are absolutely right.

 

[England my lionheart]

I don't see what the problem is,if you don't want to smoke then don't,if you think not smoking,eating healthy foods and regular excercise so you can die in an old peoples Dementia home where you can forget what your own name is then go for it.

Smoking is no less healthy for people than jogging or walking in a congested City and at least i get to choose to smoke,ok i don't live in a congested city but i think you get my point and lots of non smokers smell worse than smokers and i would rather smell of smoke than a rotting Orange :faint:.

 

[Kathryn]

I don't see what the problem is,if you don't want to smoke then don't,if you think not smoking,eating healthy foods and regular excercise so you can die in an old peoples Dementia home where you can forget what your own name is then go for it.

Smoking is no less healthy for people than jogging or walking in a congested City and at least i get to choose to smoke,ok i don't live in a congested city but i think you get my point and lots of non smokers smell worse than smokers and i would rather smell of smoke than a rotting Orange :faint:.

What a stretch.

First of all, no one's saying that smoking should be against the law, from what I can tell.

Secondly, I can't speak for everyone, but I can speak for my own gene pool. People in my family generally live active, mentally alert lives well into their '90s. For instance, my great uncle was still FLYING HIS PRIVATE PLANE in his '90s, and my great grandmother was still managing a hotel well into her '80s. My grandmother was still mowing her own yard at age 85 - with a push lawnmower.

So - I am going to make choices that extend my chances of living a long, active life, and the odds are in my favor. Those odds would be decreased if my parents had filled our house with smoke when I was a child.

That being said, I do live with a smoker, who does smoke around me on occasion. But it's MY CHOICE to be around him when he smokes. He's not forcing it on me in other words.

As for living in a congested city - that's a choice too. And if you think non smokers who jog or walk in a congested city have it bad, add cigarettes and secondhand smoke to their lives and see just how much worse their health can become - and quickly.

 

[England my lionheart]

What a stretch.

First of all, no one's saying that smoking should be against the law, from what I can tell.

Secondly, I can't speak for everyone, but I can speak for my own gene pool. People in my family generally live active, mentally alert lives well into their '90s. For instance, my great uncle was still FLYING HIS PRIVATE PLANE in his '90s, and my great grandmother was still managing a hotel well into her '80s. My grandmother was still mowing her own yard at age 85 - with a push lawnmower.

So - I am going to make choices that extend my chances of living a long, active life, and the odds are in my favor. Those odds would be decreased if my parents had filled our house with smoke when I was a child.

That being said, I do live with a smoker, who does smoke around me on occasion. But it's MY CHOICE to be around him when he smokes. He's not forcing it on me in other words.

As for living in a congested city - that's a choice too. And if you think non smokers who jog or walk in a congested city have it bad, add cigarettes and secondhand smoke to their lives and see just how much worse their health can become - and quickly.

Only joking Miss Melanie

 

[Kathryn]

Only joking!

HARHARHARHHARHAHRHARHHARHHAR, I'm a bit slow sometimes!

Good one though. Here's another picture just for you:

 

[England my lionheart]

HARHARHARHHARHAHRHARHHARHHAR, I'm a bit slow sometimes!

Good one though. Here's another picture just for you:

Good one,it doesn't look like quitting anytime soon

 

[Kathryn]

Good one,it doesn't look like quitting anytime soon

When I'm watchin' my TV
and a man comes on to tell me
how white my shirts can be.
Well he can't be a man 'cause he doesn't smoke
the same cigarrettes as me.
I can't get no, oh no no no.
Hey hey hey, that's what I say.

 

[England my lionheart]

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ROLLING STONES "(I Can't Get No) Satisfaction" on The Ed Sullivan Show - YouTube

 

[Kathryn]

Right on. And you know Mick Jagger is a smokin' fool.

 

[England my lionheart]

Right on. And you know Mick Jagger is a smokin' fool.

He sure is smokin

 

[mycorrhiza]

Smoking should remain legal, but actions should be taken to make it less dangerous. First of all, laws must be passed that regulate what you're allowed to put in cigarettes. It should be tobacco alone, and no chemicals. The paper and filter should also be free from unnecessary chemicals. Then there should be non-addictive alternatives, as the most common reason people actually start smoking cigarettes is because they think it's cool (because the effect really isn't that much). I'm sure that it's possible to breed tobacco that contains less, or no, nicotine. The availability of products that help people quit smoking should be higher and they should be cheaper than cigarettes.

In Sweden, we have a place called Systembolaget that sells alcohol. Tobacco should also only be sold in places like these, so that their availability is limited for minors.

And last, but not least, the tobacco should be organically grown.