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What do you think the outcome of this election will be?

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angellous_evangellous

Guest
My guess: McCain over Obama (52:48).

Say it ain't so!

The Republicans will have to rig a lot of voting machines to get that outcome.

I was going to guess precisely the opposite: Obama over McCain by a very slim margin.
 
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angellous_evangellous

Guest
Obama by an electoral landslide.

There's too many "unknown" electoral votes at this time - it will either be a landslide for Obama or a very close win by either candidate. McCain's chances seem slim IMHO, but anything can happen.
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
There's too many "unknown" electoral votes at this time - it will either be a landslide for Obama or a very close win by either candidate. McCain's chances seem slim IMHO, but anything can happen.

Obama has so many ways to win now that the odds are more than one of those ways will be realized --- leading to a landslide.
 

CaptainXeroid

Following Christ
And how is McCain going to overcome that 9% lag in the polls,...
This statement assumes that the sampling by the folks doing the polling is 100 accurate AND that people are 100% honest when they answer AND that people will actually vote the way they responded to the pollster.

It would appear that you have 1)forgotten 2000 and 2004 when some polls had Gore and Kerry winning comfortably, yet Bush came out on top and 2) never heard of the Bradley affect.

I think the outcome will be very close and maybe not known by midnight EST. I also think that whoever wins will likely be defeated in 2012
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Watchmen

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
I think Obama will win by a landslide (I hope so).

BUT - is there any possibility the lead is a result of the Bradley effect?
 

Mojopalin

Member
I dunno. Barack Obama seems like the obvious win. And if Barack Obama was white and his name was John Smith it would be an absolute landslide. But Sarah Palin's got the hillbillies stroking their guns to her F-me pumps, hair style, and sick rhetoric. I mean, at this point it seems like John McCain is damn near irrelevant in the eyes of the press and public.
 

PureX

Veteran Member
This statement assumes that the sampling by the folks doing the polling is 100 accurate AND that people are 100% honest when they answer AND that people will actually vote the way they responded to the pollster.

It would appear that you have 1)forgotten 2000 and 2004 when some polls had Gore and Kerry winning comfortably, yet Bush came out on top and 2) never heard of the Bradley affect.

I think the outcome will be very close and maybe not known by midnight EST. I also think that whoever wins will likely be defeated in 2012
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This time the democrats have the boots on the ground. They have registered record numbers of voters and people who bother to register will bother to vote. Also, people are really angry this time around. I predict that not only will Obama win, but it will be a shocking landslide.
 

Alceste

Vagabond
I think Obama will win by a landslide (I hope so).

BUT - is there any possibility the lead is a result of the Bradley effect?

I predict voters' misgivings about voting for a senile, charmless and even more militant version of Bush with will just about match their misgivings about voting for a non-white candidate. For every democratic voter that can't bring herself to vote for a black man there must be a republican voter who can't bring herself to vote for another hundred years in Iraq and the very real prospect of a President Palin.
 

CaptainXeroid

Following Christ
...And if Barack Obama was white and his name was John Smith it would be an absolute landslide...
The more accurate observation is that if Obama were white, Hillary Clinton would have won the Democratic nomination. The press is largely responsible for lifting up Obama to 'messiah' like status because they have been buzzing with excitement over the possibility of our first black President. McCain hasn't made great choices, starting with Palin, but it's clear the national media is pulling against him.

Obama might win, McCain might win, but the idea of a landslide is nothing more than a pipe dream of the most avid Bush haters. I'd put money on the winner garnering less than 300 Electoral votes.
 

Autodidact

Intentionally Blank
Oh please, can we get real here? Both sides suck at a balanced budget. Neither side holds any high ground here.
Ding Ding Ding! That's right! Voting Republican is no more likely to get you a balanced budget than voting Democrat. In fact, if history is any indication, the Democrats do better at it. So that is not a good basis on which to base your vote.
 

Autodidact

Intentionally Blank
The Clinton's have nothing to do with the Obama budget. The Clinton's enjoyed the result of the Regan years just as the Obamanites will get the table scraps Bush and Cheney leave behind. Obama would not deserve the defeat of health care no more than slick willie gets a free pass from me. He balanced the budget with smoke and mirrors.

Remember when Regan had Social Security taxes increased? They went into the general budget with the increased revenues from the tax cuts. The less we taxed capital gains, the more people invested and the more money that came rushing into the coffers.

Wow, that's some amazing rationalization you got there. Now if I follow you, what you're saying is that even though after 8 years of Clinton we had a budget surplus, followed directly by Bush, and after 8 years of Bush we have record-setting deficit, we should not give Clinton any credit or Bush any blame for that? Just how long does this delayed effect take, Rick? So if Obama has a deficit, that's Bush's fault, right?
 

Reverend Rick

Frubal Whore
Premium Member
So if Obama has a deficit, that's Bush's fault, right?
Bush would take the credit for the situation Obama inherits Just as when you change pitcher in a ball game, the current score is the same as before, no more no less. Now the new pitcher can win the game or lose the game, but if he loses, it is only half his fault (although he will get the blame).

Obama has already ordered the campaign and caviar for the winning celebration. This is a bit presumptuous don't you think?
 
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