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What do you think the outcome of this election will be?

PureX

Veteran Member
Whoops - I thought that now that the word "retard" is off the table for people with Downs Syndrome it was up for reassignment. I want to start using it for people who celebrate ignorance as a virtue. You have to admit, it's a pretty good word for something. I hate to see it go to waste.
I call people who deliberately practice willful ignorance as a virtue, perverted.
 

gnomon

Well-Known Member
You forgot global warming, oil price instability and their inevitable companion, famine.

I don't think you have to be nuts to want to be in charge at a time like this - in fact, it's nuts to leave it to the retards who brought us to this in the first place. I would do it in a second if I thought I had a snowball's chance in hell of ever winning that kind of popularity contest.

Aye.

There's also discussion about the impending problem of lack of water resources. I don't remember which science organization, probably SciAm, had an article relating the issue of energy and water resources.
 

gnomon

Well-Known Member
True. One thing is for sure, whoever gets this presidency will have to be darn good at it. Do you think that either obama or mcain is any good? True sometimes a persons abilities only come to the fore when they have settled into a position, and then like bush unfortunately the settling in ends up lazing about on the couch.

Personally i dont think that america can afford mcain. I think obama will win.

heneni

There's the positive psychological boost the U.S. will gain in Europe and other nations minds just for electing Obama. I really don't think other nations in Asia, Russia, or the Southern Hemisphere are as concerned. Moving past the superficial I don't know what Obama will do in regards to current foreign policy issues. He does support increasing the number of troops in Afghanistan which I agree with if there is to be any turnaround and hope of completing the original mission related to 9/11, eradicating the Al-Qaeda leadership.

What he will do in regards to our relationship with certain South American nations involving the arena of drug enforcement is up in the air. I expect him to be more like Clinton which actually worries me. Clinton's domestic and foreign drug policy was not very good at all.

Much will depend on who he will put in his cabinet. Hopefully, he can surround himself with competence and statesmanship unlike the past administration's revolving door administration.

Another concern are those domestic issues such as drug policies and property rights that cannot seem to push into the mainstream arena of discussion. Both parties have carried on with one policy that, given actions by states over the last decade, are unpopular with the state governments and the people. The Kelo decision by the SCOTUS resulted in a great number of legislative attempts by the states and even the Ohio Supreme Court openly comflicting with the SCOTUS over the issue of eminent domain. However, the number of cases of swapping private property by city council's is increasing. I won't get started on the drug war.

So, I'm not sure how Obama will do. It seems like an overwhelming task which once again brings about who will be the Secretary of State, Secretary of Defense, the Treasury Secretary, Attorney General, judicial appointees, etc. People often forget just how much power the AG and the DOJ have in domestic affairs.
 

Mojopalin

Member
The more accurate observation is that if Obama were white, Hillary Clinton would have won the Democratic nomination. The press is largely responsible for lifting up Obama to 'messiah' like status because they have been buzzing with excitement over the possibility of our first black President. McCain hasn't made great choices, starting with Palin, but it's clear the national media is pulling against him.

Obama might win, McCain might win, but the idea of a landslide is nothing more than a pipe dream of the most avid Bush haters. I'd put money on the winner garnering less than 300 Electoral votes.

Carol Mosley Braun was part of the democratic caucus in 2003. Where were the Bush hating, black-loving media elites then? Where were her votes? Why is Obama any more popular than the next black candidate? Again, put out the same Obama personality with a white, Christian John Smith figure, and the Democrats have got themselves a landslind.
 
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