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godlike said:The only peace one can have is to pierce the illusion with the higher senses, to lift the veil of maya. The organized chaos of existence is only seeming, for underneath lies an immutable Truth, a unity and harmony visible to the minds eye in moments of great clarity.
Moni_Gail said:My answer is extremely simplistic, but I say learning which can only really be done through experience.
Neosnoia said:Is it contradictory that I agree with both of you? :areyoucra
That is a baseless assertion.BruceDLimber said:The purposeof life is twofold: ...
Jay said:That is a baseless assertion.
What do you think the [...] meaning of life[is]?
Greetings: This is an interesting thread, Syoonsh, a very important subject. Thank you. My thoughts agree with your opening post about Enlightenment, and with the posting by Hema. The posting above by Godlike has captured my thoughts better than I could write myself and with 'belonging' has helped me understand better. (You have done it again, Godlike.) Let me just take a different perspective on the same thing and offer some words for a different view: 'After fulfillment within the unity of universal fulfillment, ultimate meaning comes from participation in being as OneSelf reunited with God.'Godlike said:The meaning of life is in belonging. Everything in this reality or universe or whatever you want to call it, is disjointed, contradictory, in a constant state of flux. The cosmos we perceive with our senses offers no existential reward and is based on conflict. What gentle, loving soul can feel @ home in this place? Before enlightenment, we are but exiles here, foreigners in our own reality, prisoners of a funtional system whose rules and dynamics operate beyond our scope of control. What can be done to be happy here? How do I come to a sense of Belonging, without which there can be no content, no meaning?
The only peace one can have is to pierce the illusion with the higher senses, to lift the veil of maya. The organized chaos of existence is only seeming, for underneath lies an immutable Truth, a unity and harmony visible to the minds eye in moments of great clarity. Attendant upon this realiztion of non-duality, of a non-distinct Self and Universe, is the Reason which answers the question "Why Am I Here?": in this, we find the lost meaning and content longed for. All the barriers that blocked one from living a life fully, wholly and completely, fall away and one is left with the conviction that one belongs here, that one is here for a reason and that reason is not deviod of purpose in the grander scheme of things. This belonging is the end of existential suffering, and the beginning of happiness and contentment.
YmirGF said:You do however, need to believe in yourself and it would be helpful if you allowed yourself to believe in the concept of the "inner self". The "I" within the "I" or the "original" you. Perhaps then ... you will know me, as I am.
Godlike said:I used to think this too but eventually I saw through it: the problem with that in action is there must always be inner disharmony and disunity if I divide my-Self into a "lower" and a "higher" self.
and ....Godlike said:I agree that there is meaning in simply be-ing oneself, but we are creatures of desire, born of it.
This concept is somewhat alien to me, I will be quite honest. I have never sensed that I did not "belong" or do not "belong" even though there are times I wondered why I was somewhere, lol. It is my suspicion that this is a "hot" button issue for you at this time and this is part of your own current "life challenge".Godlike said:Therefore there is longing in us, and so it follows that it is not simply enough to BE, we must also Be-long, here and now wherever we are. Don't you think, Paul?
Nice points, ProfLogic. And I appreciate the 'pawn' bit which is assumed to be a humorous statement into humility, it gave me a chuckle. Just wanted to add, however, that to be such a 'pawn' would be impossible because such an 'awareness' would realize God within you and perceive all people as divine as well. I read somewhere something like, 'the psychotic and the megalomaniac expect to be worshipped by everyone (and have pawns) but the true awareness happily worships everyone.'ProfLogic said:Purpose of life is purely to exists. Its up to each person to determine their own purpose. Well another purpose might be to be a pawn to an awareness that proclaims itself as a god.
Glad we sucked you in on this one, YmirGF, your wisdom is always appreciated and admired.YmirGF said:I am such a sucker for these kind of threads, lol. It is a problem I am trying my darndest to rectify, but I am so weak.
The purpose of "life" is for the individual to simply Be, what it is, they are. An oak tree does not fret about how it should be, it simply grows and grows. Consciousness is a similar beast and consciousneess implicitly understands how to revel in its own inherent state of "natural grace". This natural grace can also be described as the "enlightened state". It is the purpose of life to achieve this "direct connect" to the source of ones individuality. By making this "direct connect" the individual allows the inner self to manifest into the physical world, albeit in a slightly limited fashion.
YmirGF said:This concept is somewhat alien to me, I will be quite honest. I have never sensed that I did not "belong" or do not "belong" even though there are times I wondered why I was somewhere, lol. It is my suspicion that this is a "hot" button issue for you at this time and this is part of your own current "life challenge".