I don't recall seeing a poll thread about this before on RF, so here it goes.
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What Do You Vote?
- Thread starter Debater Slayer
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Woo hoo!
Third party is winning!
(One to zero, zero, zero & zero)
Third party is winning!
(One to zero, zero, zero & zero)
Could the <3rd party> choice be expanded to.....
<Libertarian>
<Green>
<other>
<Libertarian>
<Green>
<other>
Too many options. I don't want the poll to be biased by listing specific third parties, so the umbrella term "third party" will have to do.
Rats!Too many options. I don't want the poll to be biased by listing specific third parties, so the umbrella term "third party" will have to do.
Those are the 2 enduring 3rd parties here, which is why I listed no others.
But hey....
It's my party, & you'll deny if you want to
deny if you want to, deny if you want to.....
Just for those who don't know it....
Independent isn't really a party in America. If it means "don't vote a straight ticket" then that would be me.
With me and many, there is emotionalism tied to our voting habits. I'm fairly middle-of the road American but the rhetoric from the far left just emotionally angers me more than the rhetoric of the far right even though the far left is more intelligent than the far right. I just hate the intellectually arrogant leftist attitude of superiority over what they consider to be narrow-minded religious bigots. Also the left is more atheistic which I truly dislike; they take the criticism of right-wing religion as an argument for atheism; that angers me. So I have voted Republican always in the past, but at least at the Presidential level this time I might go Democratic based on issues (gun control, etc,). The Republicans may have gotten too dumb for me on some issues. I'll probably still vote Republican on the lower offices though as I don't do the homework to study the people running for all the lower positions and I would hate to vote in a left-winger that seems to hate Caucasians , Christianity, capitalism, America, the rich, etc. (you know the type).
Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
I don't vote. I'm not big on wasting my time on empty gestures.
I like empty gestures.
They're mostly harmless.
I said Democrat.
I used to be an independent. My first presidential vote was for Reagan. The single candidate I voted for every chance I got was Senator Lugar, a Republican.
But over the last decade and a half or so, the Republican party has come to be dominated by crazies. I just can't support them any more. When the TeaParty eliminated Lugar in the primaries, in favor of a whacko who got beat by a nearly unknown Dem in this seriously Red state, I was pretty much over the RNC.
Tom
I used to be an independent. My first presidential vote was for Reagan. The single candidate I voted for every chance I got was Senator Lugar, a Republican.
But over the last decade and a half or so, the Republican party has come to be dominated by crazies. I just can't support them any more. When the TeaParty eliminated Lugar in the primaries, in favor of a whacko who got beat by a nearly unknown Dem in this seriously Red state, I was pretty much over the RNC.
Tom
Democrat in the major categories. I've voted Socialist in local elections. Would vote Green, too.
Hah!
I just knew you were a liberal!
FlyingTeaPot
Irrational Rationalist. Educated Fool.
I vote Bernie! but not sure if I should vote Democrat or Independent. I don't like the establishment Democratic candidate (Hillary).
I hope Bernie runs as an Independent once the DNC ousts him as a Democratic candidate. (DNC chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz has made her intentions clear with this whole blow-up over DNC voter records "scandal". I still do not understand why she hasn't recused herself as the chair - she was co-chair of HRC's presidential run in 2008. To say that there is a massive conflict of interest would be an understatement.)
I hope Bernie runs as an Independent once the DNC ousts him as a Democratic candidate. (DNC chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz has made her intentions clear with this whole blow-up over DNC voter records "scandal". I still do not understand why she hasn't recused herself as the chair - she was co-chair of HRC's presidential run in 2008. To say that there is a massive conflict of interest would be an understatement.)
Obviously I do not vote in the USA, but seeing how I keep being surprised by the continued existence of GOP candidates and of the Republican Party as such, I can't imagine that I would ever waste a vote on any of them were I an American voter.
Beyond that, no idea.
Beyond that, no idea.
This poll isn't really going to work. Reason? Well let us take "Republican". The Repubpican base is NOT voting "Republican" (viz Republican establishment)... the base is in full rebellion against the "neo-cons" and the establishment.
So most of them are voting "Trump" for example, NOT "Republican" ... and they would vote Trump with R or no R or if he were on the "Bull Moose Ticket".
So I cannot select "Republican" in this case because the word doesn't really mean anything to me per say. Maybe that will change in the future, but in the reality of today you really need to add an extra option under Democratic and Republican that simply says "Trump". You may think Trump isn't a "Party" - but actually it is only it doesn't have a name (yet) so...
That is why the establishment is so adamant in their attacks on Trump - because he ISN'T one of "them".
The mudpie for Bushbots on FOX comes on the cable air on Monday morning (28-Dec-2015) with some phony "poll" (which?) that Trump is losing to Hillary by 16 points, and then the push for Rubio by the same mudpies... yet, then I see the true poll from that morning "Clinton-Trump in Dead Heat" the survey out today of 1,000 Likely Voters was conducted on December 22-23, 2015 by Rasmussen Reports which has Trump 36% to Hillary 37%, and the Republicans haven't even had a single primary yet and have not selected the nominee (probably will be Trump, or Cruz or Carson, or a combination) but even with that as Clinton the presumptive D nominee (though... it ain't over until the fat lady sings) we see this dead heat with Trump and more than a couple Republicans won't say Trump right now because they want to show loyalty to Cruz or Carson but if it were Trump as the nominee they are going to give the Donald all their love. Hillary is already in big doo doo, just wait and see in the General and Trump even gets 31% of the female vote to Hillary's weak 41% and Trump's numbers among women are rising with every week, I am noticing especially the young gals are involved with supporting Trump, also most Asians such as Filipinos, Chinese, Koreans, etc., and Trump is getting the majority of Caucasian votes, he also gets Cuban votes, Argentinians and Columbians, South Nigerians, Serbians and Russians and many others. This is going to be a great 2016, I am looking forward to it and the start of The Year of the Fire Monkey 2016 beginning in Feburary.
And then I see the Reuters "Republican" poll today (Dec 29, 2015) which has Donald Trump 39.3%, Ted Cruz 14.5%, Ben Carson 10.0%, Marco Rubio 9.3%, Jeb Bush 7.4% - so Marco is dropping now that he is seen as the next choice after Jeb by the establishment, and at this juncture Jeb should just drop out of the race. The mudpies can try and stump for Rubio all they want, the more these despised mudpies stump for Rubio the lower he goes as far as the base is concerned, Carson has come back and overtaken Rubio and the mudpie's krudpie stumping now for Christie isn't going to save the day for the establishment, in fact they will wreck any chance Christie had in the North-East.
So most of them are voting "Trump" for example, NOT "Republican" ... and they would vote Trump with R or no R or if he were on the "Bull Moose Ticket".
So I cannot select "Republican" in this case because the word doesn't really mean anything to me per say. Maybe that will change in the future, but in the reality of today you really need to add an extra option under Democratic and Republican that simply says "Trump". You may think Trump isn't a "Party" - but actually it is only it doesn't have a name (yet) so...
That is why the establishment is so adamant in their attacks on Trump - because he ISN'T one of "them".
The mudpie for Bushbots on FOX comes on the cable air on Monday morning (28-Dec-2015) with some phony "poll" (which?) that Trump is losing to Hillary by 16 points, and then the push for Rubio by the same mudpies... yet, then I see the true poll from that morning "Clinton-Trump in Dead Heat" the survey out today of 1,000 Likely Voters was conducted on December 22-23, 2015 by Rasmussen Reports which has Trump 36% to Hillary 37%, and the Republicans haven't even had a single primary yet and have not selected the nominee (probably will be Trump, or Cruz or Carson, or a combination) but even with that as Clinton the presumptive D nominee (though... it ain't over until the fat lady sings) we see this dead heat with Trump and more than a couple Republicans won't say Trump right now because they want to show loyalty to Cruz or Carson but if it were Trump as the nominee they are going to give the Donald all their love. Hillary is already in big doo doo, just wait and see in the General and Trump even gets 31% of the female vote to Hillary's weak 41% and Trump's numbers among women are rising with every week, I am noticing especially the young gals are involved with supporting Trump, also most Asians such as Filipinos, Chinese, Koreans, etc., and Trump is getting the majority of Caucasian votes, he also gets Cuban votes, Argentinians and Columbians, South Nigerians, Serbians and Russians and many others. This is going to be a great 2016, I am looking forward to it and the start of The Year of the Fire Monkey 2016 beginning in Feburary.
And then I see the Reuters "Republican" poll today (Dec 29, 2015) which has Donald Trump 39.3%, Ted Cruz 14.5%, Ben Carson 10.0%, Marco Rubio 9.3%, Jeb Bush 7.4% - so Marco is dropping now that he is seen as the next choice after Jeb by the establishment, and at this juncture Jeb should just drop out of the race. The mudpies can try and stump for Rubio all they want, the more these despised mudpies stump for Rubio the lower he goes as far as the base is concerned, Carson has come back and overtaken Rubio and the mudpie's krudpie stumping now for Christie isn't going to save the day for the establishment, in fact they will wreck any chance Christie had in the North-East.