What does Satan have to do with satanism?

[Orias]

Maybe the condescension remark was unnecessary.

But I've encountered similar posts with similar intent, claiming a more individualistic approach when the reality of their facets are obvious.

 

[Orias]

:clap not many Christians realize that you're only supposed to judge other Christians.

This is simply unrealistic.

If this were truly the case then Christianity would not be the imposing force that it is.

 

[1137]

This is simply unrealistic.

If this were truly the case then Christianity would not be the imposing force that it is.

What is unrealistic?

 

[Orias]

Read the post.

 

[Me Myself]

i am also curious about this subject.

What has led you to believe god´s name is satan? I am not even sure how to ask what i mean to ask, but i think the question goes along to which are your pantheons and whow did you reach to them? (the question is more directed to those who do believe in the true existence of this beings, and not only as psychological representations. That said, explanations of all help understand different views on it)

and the god of the bible enters this pantheon as... Is he still viewed as the creator? Or how is he viewed? From where does this being that the bible cals "god" in genesis comes? From satan?

<_< >_>

 

[Orias]

@ Me Myself, who are you asking and are you asking in a way that applies to all Satanists or the individual?

 

[1137]

Read the post.

Or you could simply tell me what you found unrealistic...

 

[Orias]

Or you could simply tell me what you found unrealistic...

I quoted what you said and replied to it.

Thats as simple as it gets.

 

[Me Myself]

@ Me Myself, who are you asking and are you asking in a way that applies to all Satanists or the individual.

I see more diversity here in satanism that in other dirs, so I think I could only hope to ask to the individual satanists here

I am asking for each of your views, as I said , mostly for those who truly believe in the deities (be them Seth, Satan, etc), but also interested in those who use them as psychological tools.

If you have any knowledge of interpretations of other satanists about the subject, I would also appreciate them greatly

 

[1137]

I quoted what you said and replied to it.

Thats as simple as it gets.

You quoted a factual statement I made... If you'd rather play games than discuss it that's fine. I'm going to leave the DIR before I get forcibly removed.

 

[Orias]

Factual statement?

Where?

You said Christians are only supposed to judge other Christians.

I said this is unrealistic because if it were true then Christianity would not be the imposing force that it is. Aside from that, it is the duty of every good Christian to spread the word!

Yea, leave the DIR or get forcibly removed. I wonder what you would say that would force you to leave the DIR. With your past couple of posts we wouldn't miss much.

 

[Me Myself]

I am also curious about this subject.

What has led you to believe God´s name is Satan? I am not even sure how to ask what I mean to ask, but I think the question goes along to which are your pantheons and whow did you reach to them? (the question is more directed to those who do believe in the true existence of this beings, and not only as psychological representations. That said, explanations of all help understand different views on it)

And the god of the bible enters this pantheon as... is he still viewed as the creator? or how is he viewed? from where does this being that the bible cals "god" in genesis comes? from satan?

<_< >_>

@ Me Myself, who are you asking and are you asking in a way that applies to all Satanists or the individual?

I see more diversity here in satanism that in other dirs, so I think I could only hope to ask to the individual satanists here

I am asking for each of your views, as I said , mostly for those who truly believe in the deities (be them Seth, Satan, etc), but also interested in those who use them as psychological tools.

If you have any knowledge of interpretations of other satanists about the subject, I would also appreciate them greatly

o.o ....

 

[Orias]

@ Me Myself, sorry I've obviously gotten distracted with all of the pretenders.

I will respond to your questions shortly.

 

[1137]

Factual statement?

Where?

You said Christians are only supposed to judge other Christians.

I said this is unrealistic because if it were true then Christianity would not be the imposing force that it is. Aside from that, it is the duty of every good Christian to spread the word!

Yea, leave the DIR or get forcibly removed. I wonder what you would say that would force you to leave the DIR. With your past couple of posts we wouldn't miss much.

Spreading the word is not judging... Nobody said Christians follow Christianity either, we don't even know what Jesus preached. Chances are he was more like a satanic / luciferian mystic / jew than how we see him today.

There's no need to get so aggrivated Orias. We're all brothers (and sisters)

 

[Me Myself]

@ Me Myself, sorry I've obviously gotten distracted with all of the pretenders.

I will respond to your questions shortly.

thanks

Take your time, I only wanted to be sure you remembered it xD

(with yur issue maybe another thread(one in a section of debate) would be more appropiate?)

 

[jasonwill2]

I am also curious about this subject.

What has led you to believe God´s name is Satan? I am not even sure how to ask what I mean to ask, but I think the question goes along to which are your pantheons and whow did you reach to them? (the question is more directed to those who do believe in the true existence of this beings, and not only as psychological representations. That said, explanations of all help understand different views on it)

And the god of the bible enters this pantheon as... is he still viewed as the creator? or how is he viewed? from where does this being that the bible cals "god" in genesis comes? from satan?

Oh wait as name? Satan is not a name...God has no name. It's a title. Right now, Orais is being quite a Satan in this topic, for example.

Also i dont give a flying **** about Genesis it doesn't enter into my beliefs. "Satan" can apply to so many things. I wish people would learn what words mean first before throwing them around.

God is obviously something that likes to test things, and has made the Universe and us in an oppositional frame-work whereas we fight each other over resources and for survival. this can also be seen in how entropy works to a degree. It all is from the same theme or cosmic principle of energy transfers, which is why my current avatar as of this post has the equation for such transfers.

Satan is the most apt title for god based on it's meaning is why really.

 

[Orias]

Spreading the word is not judging... Nobody said Christians follow Christianity either, we don't even know what Jesus preached. Chances are he was more like a satanic / luciferian mystic / jew than how we see him today.

There's no need to get so aggrivated Orias.

I'm aggravated because there is so much dishonesty and self deceit going on here.

If Christians didn't follow Christianity then they wouldn't be Christians. Judgement is simply part of our human nature, someone who says they aren't judging you is being dishonest and has motives that you are probably unaware of.

"Spreading the word" is absolute judgement, as it involves telling those who don't believe in the word that they are wrong for doing so.

If a Christian is open minded enough to believe that non-Christian belief can be correct then their very principal is self defeating and hypocritical.

You and the others here of all people should be well aware of this.

 

[Me Myself]

Oh wait as name? Satan is not a name...God has no name. It's a title. Right now, Orais is being quite a Satan in this topic, for example.

Also i dont give a flying **** about Genesis it doesn't enter into my beliefs. "Satan" can apply to so many things. I wish people would learn what words mean first before throwing them around.

God is obviously something that likes to test things, and has made the Universe and us in an oppositional frame-work whereas we fight each other over resources and for survival. this can also be seen in how entropy works to a degree. It all is from the same theme or cosmic principle of energy transfers, which is why my current avatar as of this post has the equation for such transfers.

Satan is the most apt title for god based on it's meaning is why really.

I think I understand a little bit more what you mean. Relax about the words, I know my meanings are not universal, that´s why I am asking after all

But form where do you get your belief in different spirits or demons for example? (I understand "demon" is the default name for a spirit in your cosmology, wheter it is a pleasant one, a sexy one or w e, do please correct me if I am mistaken )

For example, how do you know there is a Lilith? How would you know if there is only one demon called Lilith? etc

 

[1137]

I'm aggravated because there is so much dishonesty and self deceit going on here.

If Christians didn't follow Christianity then they wouldn't be Christians. Judgement is simply part of our human nature, someone who says they aren't judging you is being dishonest and has motives that you are probably unaware of.

You have a point, but there is spiritual and religious Christianity. I know many good Christians who would never judge my beliefs or convert me, including my best friend. We cannot group all Christians just like we cannot group all LHPers. But yes, Christianity in general does try to suppress human instinct.

Spreading the word" is absolute judgement, as it involves telling those who don't believe in the word that they are wrong for doing so.

If a Christian is open minded enough to believe that non-Christian belief can be correct then their very principal is self defeating and hypocritical.

That's not true. Christianity is not supposed to be about the bible, the church, etc but simply about Christ. I know many who see Christ in a light similar to the way I do rather than the religion. Two of my closest friends are Christian and do not believe I am going to hell. I consider THEM real Christians.

 

[Me Myself]

That's not true. Christianity is not supposed to be about the bible, the church, etc but simply about Christ. I know many who see Christ in a light similar to the way I do rather than the religion. Two of my closest friends ate Christian and do not believe I am going to hell. I consider THEM real Christians.

Absolute frubals(edit: but I must spread around! >.< ). I dont believe you are going to hell, and I identify completely with christianity being about christ and not the bible or the church.

I would even had debated further, but I am in a DIR and not even mine and all