What does the Democratic Party have in common with Cancer?

[Pariah]

So lets summarize your view on the political spectrum
You are either a Communist terrorist a moderate or a fascist zealot?

Forget Lilithu. You already are a politician.

 

[yossarian22]

Bull! that is not what I was arguing and you know it.

You were arguing that you are either a moderate or a zealot. You can be extreme in support of something, or just in support of something, but few people are zealots for something. I doubt Rick would die for the Republican ideology to be spread.

Whatever side you support, comparing the other side to cancer makes you a zealot.

Considering how many more insulting analogies exist for both parties, you cannot even consider him to be a zealot relative to anything. For you to be a zealot for your cause, you must be ridiculously extreme in your support, to the effect that you would die for such a cause.
The views expressed in the OP are a far cry from such fanaticism. It does not even compare the democrats to cancer, as your purport. It states that if there was an option for the the country to the democrat's platform (From Ricks point of view), they would suppress it.

 

[yossarian22]

Forget Lilithu. You already are a politician.

Rhetoric is the best tool to fight rhetoric.
This is all politics boils down to. Painting the other side as nutjobs. And debate over politics will always result in the same

 

[Pariah]

Rhetoric is the best tool to fight rhetoric.

Indeed, the world is dastardly, and sometimes you just need a really big gun to fight back. Ever try and use logic against someone speaks better (but may or not be telling the truth) than you?

It's interesting to observe people (you, for example, in this situation) switch in and out of character when it comes to this type of "debate".

 

[lilithu]

You were arguing that you are either a moderate or a zealot. You can be extreme in support of something, or just in support of something, but few people are zealots for something. I doubt Rick would die for the Republican ideology to be spread.
Considering how many more insulting analogies exist for both parties, you cannot even consider him to be a zealot relative to anything. For you to be a zealot for your cause, you must be ridiculously extreme in your support, to the effect that you would die for such a cause.
The views expressed in the OP are a far cry from such fanaticism. It does not even compare the democrats to cancer, as your purport. It states that if there was an option for the the country to the democrat's platform (From Ricks point of view), they would suppress it.

Unbelievable. It's my own fault for continuing to engage you in your sophistry.

As I said in the Global Warming thread, Goodbye.

 

[yossarian22]

Indeed, the world is dastardly, and sometimes you just need a really big gun to fight back. Ever try and use logic against someone speaks better (but may or not be telling the truth) than you?

Yes. I've been on both ends of that sort of discussion.]

It's interesting to observe people (you, for example, in this situation) switch in and out of character when it comes to this type of "debate".

It almost seems like a different person during some of my posts. Argumentation is rarely about representation of the facts sadly enough. its about finding a tiny contradiction or flaw in the other side, and ripping it to shreds. Hence why I view political debates with disdain. I will of course participate in them. Rhetoric is fun to compose, for me at least.

 

[yossarian22]

Unbelievable. It's my own fault for continuing to engage you in your sophistry.

So, petty insults is it?
Nothing more noble than political debates...

 

[lilithu]

So, petty insults is it?

From your keyboard:

It almost seems like a different person during some of my posts. Argumentation is rarely about representation of the facts sadly enough. its about finding a tiny contradiction or flaw in the other side, and ripping it to shreds. ...Rhetoric is fun to compose, for me at least.

From the dictionary:
soph·ist·ry
1.a subtle, tricky, superficially plausible, but generally fallacious method of reasoning.

 

[yossarian22]

From the dictionary:
soph·ist·ry
1.a subtle, tricky, superficially plausible, but generally fallacious method of reasoning.

Sophistry is an inherently negative word. Show me the flaw in my reasoning before you accuse me of it.

I would also like to note that your points have major flaws in their reasoning, and paints a black/white picture of political beliefs

 

[Scuba Pete]

The hypocrisy is too much. If it wasn't so pathetic it would be really funny.

I fully agree, Christians supporting Shrub and the war, are as hypocritical as they are pathetic. How could anyone use the religion of peace to wage war is beyond me.

 

[Reverend Rick]

I fully agree, Christians supporting Shrub and the war, are as hypocritical as they are pathetic. How could anyone use the religion of peace to wage war is beyond me.

Please tell me what your comments about our President have to do with the topic? For that matter, should religion play a part in a political debate?

You have held me to task answering your questions in the past Pete, please make an attempt to stay on topic and answer my questions please.

 

[Reverend Rick]

In case anyone has lost track of the topic, my question is, has the Democrats failed to help the people they promised to help because they are afraid if they raised their standard of living they may no longer depend on the government for help, or are they really not improving or changing anything on purpose?

If my analogy is wrong, why are they not doing the job they were elected to do?

I think the Dem's won the majority of the house because of the dissatisfaction with the Iraq war. The speaker of the house, Nancy Pelosi vowed to put an end to the war. What has happened since she took her post, is send even more troops to Iraq, the exact opposite of what she was elected to do.

This is not a diatribe, this is the cold hard facts and I am asking why?

Can anyone not see the lip service the Democratic party is serving up to their constituents?

 

[PureX]

In case anyone has lost track of the topic, my question is, has the Democrats failed to help the people they promised to help because they are afraid if they raised their standard of living they may no longer depend on the government for help, or are they really not improving or changing anything on purpose?

Are you suggesting that the democrats have the power to "raise the stadnard of living" for vast numbers of people just because they have a slight majority in the house? How are you imagining that they could do this?

So far, they haven't even been able to get health insurance for poor children because Bush vetoed their bill and the other republicans won't defy his veto. If they can't even get health insurance for kids, how do you think they have the ability to raise the standard of living for millions of the poor and working class in America?

If my analogy is wrong, why are they not doing the job they were elected to do?

How do you propose they do what you claim they were elected to do? Anything they propose, Bush would veto, and the republicans would not override his veto.

I think the Dem's won the majority of the house because of the dissatisfaction with the Iraq war. The speaker of the house, Nancy Pelosi vowed to put an end to the war. What has happened since she took her post, is send even more troops to Iraq, the exact opposite of what she was elected to do.

Can anyone not see the lip service the Democratic party is serving up to their constituents?

The republicans have made it impossible for the democrats to stop the war. Their only possible course to ending the war would be to stop funding it, but that would leave the soldiers ill-equipped and in danger and it's clear that Bush would continue the fighting, anyway, and the republicans are going to back him to the end, because the whole republican agenda, now, is to leave the Iraq mess in the hands of the next (probably democratic) president, so they can blame the didaster that results on them. Bush and the republicans absolutely will not stop the war in Iraq. They are determined to pass the whole mess on to the next administration and they don't care how many soldiers or Iraqis die in the mean time. They desperately want to be able to blame the aftermath of a pull-out on the democrats.

 

[Reverend Rick]

The republicans have made it impossible for the democrats to stop the war. Their only possible course to ending the war would be to stop funding it, but that would leave the soldiers ill-equipped and in danger and it's clear that Bush would continue the fighting, anyway, and the republicans are going to back him to the end, because the whole republican agenda, now, is to leave the Iraq mess in the hands of the next (probably democratic) president, so they can blame the didaster that results on them. Bush and the republicans absolutely will not stop the war in Iraq. They are determined to pass the whole mess on to the next administration and they don't care how many soldiers or Iraqis die in the mean time. They desperately want to be able to blame the aftermath of a pull-out on the democrats.

Have you been reading the republican playbook? You have us pegged. It is our intention to have a presence in the middle east for as long as we need oil. Don't be surprised if we invade or at least attack another country in the coming year.

We still have a presence in Japan and Germany and it's been what, 60 years since world war two?

Just curious, who do you think the democratic nominee will be?

 

[PureX]

Have you been reading the republican playbook? You have us pegged. It is our intention to have a presence in the middle east for as long as we need oil. Don't be surprised if we invade or at least attack another country in the coming year.

As long as the oil companies own our politicians, we will always be dependent on oil. As long as we are dependent on oil, we will be abusing and exploiting the people who happen to live where there is oil, and they in turn will be trying to fight back. So the greed and stupidity of the oil companies, combined with the greed and stupidity of the politicians they own, are ultimately responsible for the deaths and suffering of millions of human beings, many of whom are now american soldiers.

We still have a presence in Japan and Germany and it's been what, 60 years since world war two?

And both are a waste of money. And have been a waste of money for decades.

The difference is that Muslim nations will not tolerate our presence on their soil. They simply will not tolerate it. They will continue to fight us "terrorist style" for as long as we remain a presence there. And the result will be continued global destabilization, death, and suffering. The methods of the 1950s cold war aren't going to work for us, anymore.

Just curious, who do you think the democratic nominee will be?

I'm very disappointed that it's likely to be Hillary.

 

[Scuba Pete]

Please tell me what your comments about our President have to do with the topic? For that matter, should religion play a part in a political debate?

You have held me to task answering your questions in the past Pete, please make an attempt to stay on topic and answer my questions please.

Dude, you rarely answer my questions: they reveal too much!

However, the Republican party has consistently used "faith" in their platform and they claim to be the aegis for the Moral Majority. These same people are full of hate and war. Republican hypocrisy is the REAL cancer of our society. To claim that the Democrats are trying to hold the underprivileged "down" is nothing but a strawman argument designed to draw attention away from the sheer meanness and hypocrisy of Republicans who, while claiming to be part of the religion of peace, wage WAR instead. It's all part and parcel of the WWJB mentality you seem to have embraced so completely.

 

[Reverend Rick]

Dude, you rarely answer my questions: they reveal too much!

However, the Republican party has consistently used "faith" in their platform and they claim to be the aegis for the Moral Majority. These same people are full of hate and war. Republican hypocrisy is the REAL cancer of our society. To claim that the Democrats are trying to hold the underprivileged "down" is nothing but a strawman argument designed to draw attention away from the sheer meanness and hypocrisy of Republicans who, while claiming to be part of the religion of peace, wage WAR instead. It's all part and parcel of the WWJB mentality you seem to have embraced so completely.

So who do you want to be President Pete?

 

[Scuba Pete]

I am not sure yet Rick... I don't like anything that I have seen so far.

 

[Reverend Rick]

Here is an old thread.

 

[Father Heathen]

Here is an old thread.

Why did you go and dig this turd up? :sarcastic