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What evidence for God
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bhaktajan
Active Member
Baahh Humbug!
"After life"? "After life" is only for imanimate objects ---of great worth; or petty worth; or nick-nack worth; or nostalgic worth; or national worth; or morgage-worthy's worth ---"After life" is only for Aerated Water Bottle deposits;
"After life" is only for Mercedes-Benz pre-owned sales lots;
"After life" is only for undertakers legal jurisdiction and graveyard digger's pension plans;
"After life" is only for the national debt left to the worlds grandchildren and their kids and their local football teams new stadium.
"After life" is only for Cost of living rate of inflation for those that would be your next wave of immigrants.
"After life" is only for prison inmates that are set free.
"After life" is only for retired porn-workers.
"After life" is only for post-adolescents.
"After life" is only for re-tooled factories.
"After life" is only for re-organized industry finances.
"After life" is only for "Energy that is never distroyed ---only changed into another form".
Animated Conscious Soul-beings that survey all that is created ---apparently are not good enough to survive the shell of embodiement of locomotion and perception of the in-animate elements that bounce off each other ad-infinitum.
My bouncing balls will be lost to me yet all the varieties of the bouncing balls of the "ten-thousand things will continue its cycle of rising and falling" ad-infinitum.
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Now for something completely different:
There are more residents in the Kingdom of Heaven then there are in all the Planets of the Material World.
The demographics of Humanity's surjourn on this planet earth is incalculable.
After a certain point in their calculations, economists and insurance actuaries acknowledge that "the rest available contributing demografics are supurfluously in excess of their need to be included in cost projections".
That is why economies are failing ---due to over extending their capacity ---predicated upon pre-plans that revolved around only the cream of society. The excess foam will abate of its own accord.
The masses are already fodder and are appreciated thusly by those that are running the machines of industry.
Similarly, the cosmic machine known as the Universe is a place where persons come to work . . . work that provides only the basest needs. And most are satified to get plenty of these 'basest needs' in abundance . . . while others universally are queued up to pine from afar for their quota of 'basest needs' . . . until the cyclic winds of change bring warmer climates . . . all accomplished in a typical cycle of the repeating seasons of time.
Orias
Left Hand Path
I asked what reason applies to. If it doesn't apply to human fabrication then whats the point of it?
nonbeliever_92
Well-Known Member
White man also no jump.
outhouse
Atheistically
RitalinO.D.
Well-Known Member
nonbeliever_92
Well-Known Member
I hurd dat. word.
diosangpastol
Dios - ang - Pastol
First Law of Thermodynamics- you cannot create anything..
Maybe you meant inventing?? If this is what you meant, refer to my answer to your question #2.
Maybe you meant inventing?? If this is what you meant, refer to my answer to your question #2.
Key Word here is made-up.
The Scripture has over 2,000 years of history to back it up.
Not to mention, archeological evidences.
The Scripture has over 2,000 years of history to back it up.
Not to mention, archeological evidences.
Im not sure what you mean by this.
This is a which-came-first...the-chicken-or-the-egg question.
If there are similarities, this only confirms that the History of the Scriptures is true.
The sequence of events is as follows (in a nut-shell):
-G-D creates Eden with Adam and Eve;
-Adam and Eve are driven away from Eden;
-Adam and Eve populate the Earth;
-In the Tower of Babel, the people are dispersed into different languages. But with the same knowledge of the G-D who dispersed them. Thus creating different versions over time.
If there are similarities, this only confirms that the History of the Scriptures is true.
The sequence of events is as follows (in a nut-shell):
-G-D creates Eden with Adam and Eve;
-Adam and Eve are driven away from Eden;
-Adam and Eve populate the Earth;
-In the Tower of Babel, the people are dispersed into different languages. But with the same knowledge of the G-D who dispersed them. Thus creating different versions over time.
This is a Linguistic Issue.
G-D is Spirit. But linguistically you cannot assign the pronoun It to a living Being, just to satisfy neutrality.
G-D revealed Himself to the Hebrews as I AM. Later, the tetragramatization of YHWH was used as a means of writing HIS name. But this was never spoken. A substitute of L-RD was used when speaking of HIS name. And L-RD is a sovereign title and does not refer to gender.
G-D is Spirit. But linguistically you cannot assign the pronoun It to a living Being, just to satisfy neutrality.
G-D revealed Himself to the Hebrews as I AM. Later, the tetragramatization of YHWH was used as a means of writing HIS name. But this was never spoken. A substitute of L-RD was used when speaking of HIS name. And L-RD is a sovereign title and does not refer to gender.
Yes, they have their own invention of their concept of who G-D is.
No. They spoke one language. This is what is written in Scriptures.
In the Hebrew language, day can also refer to an event. As in the day of judgment.
Absolutely
Absolutely
nonbeliever_92
Well-Known Member
diosangpastol
Wait, you actually believe that humans and dinosaurs roamed together and that man once lived to 900 years old?
Wait, you actually believe that humans and dinosaurs roamed together and that man once lived to 900 years old?
outhouse
Atheistically
thanks for playing
do not apply to imagination
does not apply to question #2
AND it does not have history or archeology to back up the large percent of fiction in its pages.
if anything one can say with certainty that the bible lacks historicity as it was written to be read allegorically
can you show me remote tribes in the world that are not from the levant, that have a simular god.
This would show the same god is talking to everybody equally not just ancient hebrews and only ancient hebrews.
no it is not, you misunderstand
wrong
ancient hebrews told the tales of the early bible orally for hundreds of years. These people came from other semetic speaking cultures, orally bringing their ancient fables with them.
If you were right the egyptians and sumerians would have the same religion as ancient hebrews. they do not, They had myths
this is a known myth with 0 historicity
the creation story is %100 fiction probably taken from the sumerian myth who used a man named adamu
people spoke many languages before babel, this is a fact. it is fiction
no this is false
ancient hebrews created a man god figure "god made man in our image"
this really isnt up for debate because it is so obvious.
ancient hebrews placed very little value on women, they would not have made their god a woman or even part woman. It shows in all their text.
go look at the sistine chapel ceiling, the early church wanted the painting to reflect their god figure how it was written. what you see is what you get
yes invented or imagined the same way ancient hebrews imagined their created god.
you only believe in god because of the geographic location you were born, nothing more.
wrong again, scriptures have 0 historicity.
we know for a fact as we have writing going back 6000 years [that is before babel] and there was many different languages.
really your pulling a YeC attitude, you might as well admit the world is flat and teh sun revolves around the earth at this point
The bible is very clear a day is a day, now your switching text to poorly try to make reality out of fiction.
the proper answer is no the earth was not created in 1 day and it is not 6000 years old
exuses for biblical mistakes do not fly.
there is little hope for you ever having a education that will have use or meaning as you choose to create a false reality and choose to ignore those who know much more then you.
man did not ever walk with dinosaurs, this is a fact you should get used to.
man naver lived more then 120 years of age on average. To admit man lived 900 + years is a sad statement to show how primitive man still is to gold on to ancient beliefs that were ment to be read allegorically not EVER literally
I feel sad knowing that you are not alone
do not apply to imagination
does not apply to question #2
AND it does not have history or archeology to back up the large percent of fiction in its pages.
if anything one can say with certainty that the bible lacks historicity as it was written to be read allegorically
can you show me remote tribes in the world that are not from the levant, that have a simular god.
This would show the same god is talking to everybody equally not just ancient hebrews and only ancient hebrews.
no it is not, you misunderstand
wrong
ancient hebrews told the tales of the early bible orally for hundreds of years. These people came from other semetic speaking cultures, orally bringing their ancient fables with them.
If you were right the egyptians and sumerians would have the same religion as ancient hebrews. they do not, They had myths
this is a known myth with 0 historicity
the creation story is %100 fiction probably taken from the sumerian myth who used a man named adamu
people spoke many languages before babel, this is a fact. it is fiction
no this is false
ancient hebrews created a man god figure "god made man in our image"
this really isnt up for debate because it is so obvious.
ancient hebrews placed very little value on women, they would not have made their god a woman or even part woman. It shows in all their text.
go look at the sistine chapel ceiling, the early church wanted the painting to reflect their god figure how it was written. what you see is what you get
yes invented or imagined the same way ancient hebrews imagined their created god.
you only believe in god because of the geographic location you were born, nothing more.
wrong again, scriptures have 0 historicity.
we know for a fact as we have writing going back 6000 years [that is before babel] and there was many different languages.
really your pulling a YeC attitude, you might as well admit the world is flat and teh sun revolves around the earth at this point
The bible is very clear a day is a day, now your switching text to poorly try to make reality out of fiction.
the proper answer is no the earth was not created in 1 day and it is not 6000 years old
exuses for biblical mistakes do not fly.
there is little hope for you ever having a education that will have use or meaning as you choose to create a false reality and choose to ignore those who know much more then you.
man did not ever walk with dinosaurs, this is a fact you should get used to.
man naver lived more then 120 years of age on average. To admit man lived 900 + years is a sad statement to show how primitive man still is to gold on to ancient beliefs that were ment to be read allegorically not EVER literally
I feel sad knowing that you are not alone
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bhaktajan
Active Member
Absolute allegories ---//versus//--- myraids of literally written meanings?
Says Who? Your Guru? Who's your Guru?
And what ever happened to the values of all those allegories?
Did everyone want more than allegories?
Did the crowds shout, "Yeah, we comprehend the allegories already! But there probably other hidden meanings along with the allegories . . . like the literal written writings"
Says Who? Your Guru? Who's your Guru?
And what ever happened to the values of all those allegories?
Did everyone want more than allegories?
Did the crowds shout, "Yeah, we comprehend the allegories already! But there probably other hidden meanings along with the allegories . . . like the literal written writings"
bhaktajan
Active Member
Says Asks? A Guru? Who's Guru?
Are you a scholar? You have degree?
You are fallen from that family tradition?
You wrote a thesis that earned you a Phd?
How are you privy to your out-pourings?
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Says Who? Your Guru? Who's your Guru?
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outhouse
Atheistically
Dont just stand there holding your sign, make your case the first 5 books of the OT should be read literally and that they hold only true words.
bhaktajan
Active Member
Who says your requests are deemed sensable?
I am saying your opinion is "Yours" based on "Yours" for "Yours".
Thas is what you should challenge me with:
Make your case that my opinion is "Mine" --based on "Mine" --for "My" reasoning.
{Make your case that outhouse's opinion is "outhouse's" --based on "outhouse's" --for "outhouse's" reasoning.}
And that, even if you took a poll--- it would be skewed by the logistics of the voters available to answer the poll.
The reason you can ignore what some people do in the privacy of their own island of retreat as 'unusual behavior' is because . . . it is done far away on their island.
If you mis-treat these queer folks because they are threading on your space ---then your argument is not with there 'odd' predilictions but rather "how does it traspass on your own rights to peace & happiness".
How does the means of your own rights to peace & happiness compromised by the traditions of the Old Testiment.
How has the Old Testiment verdicts compromised your pursuit of freedom and liberty?
Has the Old Testiment verdicts compromised your pursuit of freedom and liberty--- or, is it simply knowing that there are those that adhere to the Old Testiment verdicts ---and that gives you some sort of complex that you feel neccessary to purge your self of?
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RitalinO.D.
Well-Known Member
If you actually believe this, how can anyone take anything you say seriously?
