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What evidence is there that christians are all mass deluded?
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Heneni
Miss Independent
Oh come now....you can do better than that! We are all 'craeezzee'. I mean it must be very simple to prove that right. Give it a go why dont you.
richardlowellt
Well-Known Member
I'm not sure "deluded" is the right choice of words here, deluded----impose a misleading belief upon someone. Do you think the Christian belief is misleading? I know the point you are trying to make, but maybe a better choice of words would get to your point.
Aquitaine
Well-Known Member
To be fair though, I don't think Christians are mass deluded, I can't even venture a guess, especially since there's no such thing as a "real" or "true" Christian.
Yeah there are some loonies, but that's a Human trait that exists in fields that arn't even related to religion, let alone Christianity.
I guess it's like when people ask are Atheists immoral, but both "Atheist" and "immoral" can't even be truely defined anyways, therefore I'd be lying if I said, or attempted to give you an accurate answer - other than:
I honestly cannot answer your question.
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I would like to turn the question the other way around. What is the proof that any other religions is mass deluded and Christianity is the right one?
The problem with asking such a question is that it seems to assume Christianity is a truth in need of being disproved. Christianity is not a universal truth, and there is no proof against Christianity (except in its most fundamental form, when the words of the Bible is taken literally). There does however not seem to exist any need for a creator, and, from the perspective of an atheist, the concept of a deity is illogical.
The problem with asking such a question is that it seems to assume Christianity is a truth in need of being disproved. Christianity is not a universal truth, and there is no proof against Christianity (except in its most fundamental form, when the words of the Bible is taken literally). There does however not seem to exist any need for a creator, and, from the perspective of an atheist, the concept of a deity is illogical.
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Heneni
Miss Independent
What is the point im trying to make. I simply ask for evidence that mass delusion of this kind is both probable and scientifically verifyable as the most plausible reason for believing in God
Heneni
Heneni
Miss Independent
Shall we not turn the question around. The question is...what evidence is there (not that god exists or does not exist) that christians as a mass group are all delusional or crazy, which explains why they believe in a GOD.
Heneni
My point was that the question is unfair. There is no evidence in one way or the other, only, in lack of better words, hints.
Heneni
Miss Independent
The question is not unfair Kerr. I'm not trying to ask people to prove there is no god or that there is, im asking for evidence that christians are crazy or delusional. I mean....surely there are scientific ways to prove this right?
Are our brains not wired properly....ya know....or what?
If you wonder what "hints" I have seen that makes me not believe in Christianity, it is just that everything I have seen from science makes me feel there is no need for a creator or deity. We may not know all, and there is a LOT we cannot explain, but absence of understanding is not a proof in one way or another, it is just absence of understanding. That is my subjective assessment. Look around and you will find other assessments. This is a highly subjective issue, which is one of the problems with the question.
Perfect Circle
Just Browsing
Who made the claim?
Scarlett Wampus
psychonaut
All of us are subject to delusional thoughts just as all of us are subject to diseases. I could present an argument that available evidence supports this assertion but that's probably diverting the topic too far.
Heneni, why don't you ask what evidence there is that all Christians are deluded about a particular thing?
Heneni, why don't you ask what evidence there is that all Christians are deluded about a particular thing?
nonbeliever_92
Well-Known Member
I think the majority of theist, regardless of their religion, are either ignorant, mistaken, or simply stubborn. Deluded only refers to the minority of theists and humans in general.
Heneni
Miss Independent
I think is said it down there somewhere....delusional or crazy about thinking god exists. If christians are deluded or crazy to believe in god, then there must be evidence to present that their minds are somehow....wired to come up with this stuff.....all by themselves.
And then there must surely be evidence that this kind of thinking is contageous or genetic, you know...i cant help believing in god, i was born that way, or there must be evidence that the minds of these christians have somehow gone wrong somewhere. We are believing in the invisible pink unicorn.
Heneni
Heneni
Miss Independent
Yes though you are entitled to think,you are equally entitled to present evidence that we are all mass deluded. Some christians who believe in god cant be sane and others wacko.
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Heneni
Miss Independent
Hmmm....millions of christians are brainwashed. Ok...great so by what mechanism are christians brainwashed. What brainwashes us? What makes us suseptable to being the type to be brainwashed?
dogsgod
Well-Known Member
You got it backwards, Christians are not delusional or crazy and therefore believe in God. Christians believe in God and are therefore disillusioned, that's what makes them delusional or crazy.