Agnostic75
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Surely "the Koran says so" is not any more convincing than "the Bible says so."
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What evidence is there that the Koran is the word of God?
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angellous_evangellous
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I don't think that there can be a concincing argument that either the Bible or the Koran is the word of God. Otherwise, your agnostic friends would be trying to convince you of the divine works and not Muslims or Christians.
The claims that the Koran / Bible are of a divine quality are meant for the ears of Muslims/Christians who already believe in God, and not vice-versa.
The claims that the Koran / Bible are of a divine quality are meant for the ears of Muslims/Christians who already believe in God, and not vice-versa.
I find one twice as convincing as the other.
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angellous_evangellous
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Agnostic75
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angellous evangellous said:
But what arguments do Muslims use to try to convince non-Muslims to become Muslims? The same goes for Christians, but I wish to limit this thread to discussing the Koran.
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angellous_evangellous
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I gotcha. I mentioned Christianity because it's in the OP.
Agnostic75
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angellous_evangellous said:
Yes, that is actually correct, but my intention was to limit discussions to the Koran in this thread. If you wish, I will start a similar thread on the Bible. I doubt that you would favor discussing all religions in a single thread, but if you do, please start a new thread of your own.
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Superabacus Mystic
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Hostis humani generis
"Because it says so, it must be true"?
Just replace "Bible" with "Quran" and we have the same argument.
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angellous_evangellous
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Well, it's obviously right about everything else, so the claim to inspiration must be true.
How so?
YmirGF
Bodhisattva in Recovery
I am of the mind that one Qur'an is quite enough. There is no need to saddle humanity with more drivel.
Caladan
Agnostic Pantheist
And there you have it... one cannot argue with such a display of flawless logic.
Breathe
Hostis humani generis
We had a thread on this before. It was over 90 pages long or so, at least. The answers we got were "
" or incredibly narrow definitions that came across as quite illogical.It's not something that is meant to be taken up, because it can't be. There is nothing to challenge.
Gaura Priya
IRL
Many Muslims justify the Qur'an because a) it corrects the teachings of Christianity, which has driven itself to worship Jesus as an incarnation literally of God... that God would send himself on a suicide mission. b) They will utilise scientific teachings to show that the Qur'an has revealed science long before their respective findings in the scientific community. c) The Qur'an in one sense, is universalistic, because it accepts, unlike Judaism and Christianity, that God has sent Messengers and Prophets in every age, in every culture, of the belief in monotheism, and that anyone who believes in one God, and in the angels, and the Last Day have nothing to grieve.
I actually like the Qur'an, and I do believe that Muhammad was verily a Messenger of God. Not the last one, and certainly not the first!
I actually like the Qur'an, and I do believe that Muhammad was verily a Messenger of God. Not the last one, and certainly not the first!
A-ManESL
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I also "believe" that after initial "blind faith" (which I put in inverted commas because I feel that there is certain innate justification in faith and it isn't truly entirely blind) in a religion, without sufficient logical reasoning to back it, in due course of time, there is an eye of the heart which opens up inside a person, and he gets knowledge which proves/establishes the validity of various religious ideas inside him or her. Then the Truth becomes self-evident for that particular person, and there is no need for further evidence.
The Quran speaks on this, in Chapter 49, verse 14, in response to Arab people accepting Islam in large numbers (in the later stage of Prophet Muhammad's(pbuh) life) and then calling themselves as believers.
The Quran speaks on this, in Chapter 49, verse 14, in response to Arab people accepting Islam in large numbers (in the later stage of Prophet Muhammad's(pbuh) life) and then calling themselves as believers.