What Happened To Jesus???

[Hockeycowboy]

The canonical bible is missing information about the man called Jesus. There's the story of his birth, a snippit about an incident with his mother when he was a boy, and then *POOF* he disappears from biblical text we're given, but when he came back on the scene he was a miracle-working healer and an extraordinary teacher on the topic of the kingdom of God.

What happened to Jesus?

Something else to ponder are the stories about his crucifixion. Mainstream teaching insists that he died on a cross, was buried and resurrected on the third day (Sunday, it is believed), but according to scripture, that's not true.

So what happened to Jesus?

Jesus did not die on a cross. His disciples ate him. That's where the Catholic and Christian practice of taking communion, eucharist, sacrament (whatever the label) comes from. Some of you may be familiar with this take on his true death, so this is not necessarily about that unless you want to discuss that. This is more a question of what happened to Jesus while he was alive.

We're not missing any important information...we have what we need to know!

For that matter, much of Moses' life is missing; after his birth and then found Pharoah's daughter, nothing til he's 40, then another stretch of nothing til he's 80!

Or what about Abraham? We know nothing about him, til he's 75!

Again, we have what we need.

 

[blue taylor]

The canonical bible is missing information about the man called Jesus. There's the story of his birth, a snippit about an incident with his mother when he was a boy, and then *POOF* he disappears from biblical text we're given, but when he came back on the scene he was a miracle-working healer and an extraordinary teacher on the topic of the kingdom of God.

What happened to Jesus?

Something else to ponder are the stories about his crucifixion. Mainstream teaching insists that he died on a cross, was buried and resurrected on the third day (Sunday, it is believed), but according to scripture, that's not true.

So what happened to Jesus?

Jesus did not die on a cross. His disciples ate him. That's where the Catholic and Christian practice of taking communion, eucharist, sacrament (whatever the label) comes from. Some of you may be familiar with this take on his true death, so this is not necessarily about that unless you want to discuss that. This is more a question of what happened to Jesus while he was alive.

The Gospel Of Mark, the earliest written gospel, has no virgin birth and no resurrection. You are mistaken.

 

[Rajina]

Jesus migrated to India, lived there peacefully and died a natural death at the age of 120 years. Please

Regards

As a Prophet of Islam he was missioned to invite people to the truth. If he was alive until the age of 120 in India, he would have continued his prophetic mission in India, he would have fought against injustice and oppression. Who do you think are his followers in India? And Who was he in the Indian history?

 

[paarsurrey]

Why not Turkey? much closer
Did he travel by land or by sea?

He went by land, it was his choice. He was sent to the Israelites and 10 of the 12 tribes of them got settled in now Afghanistan, Pakistan and Kashmir, now in India.
Regarads

 

[Etritonakin]

The canonical bible is missing information about the man called Jesus. There's the story of his birth, a snippit about an incident with his mother when he was a boy, and then *POOF* he disappears from biblical text we're given, but when he came back on the scene he was a miracle-working healer and an extraordinary teacher on the topic of the kingdom of God.

What happened to Jesus?

Something else to ponder are the stories about his crucifixion. Mainstream teaching insists that he died on a cross, was buried and resurrected on the third day (Sunday, it is believed), but according to scripture, that's not true.

So what happened to Jesus?

Jesus did not die on a cross. His disciples ate him. That's where the Catholic and Christian practice of taking communion, eucharist, sacrament (whatever the label) comes from. Some of you may be familiar with this take on his true death, so this is not necessarily about that unless you want to discuss that. This is more a question of what happened to Jesus while he was alive.

Doesn't it say he carpented?
That would not make for interesting or important reading.

His disciples ate bread and drank wine. As Christ was right there offering them the bread and wine, I don't think they were at all confused or believed they were being cannibalistic.

 

[paarsurrey]

The Gospel Of Mark, the earliest written gospel, has no virgin birth and no resurrection. You are mistaken.

You are absolutely right to say that resurrection is an after thought, if I have correctly understood one, and it has no basis, it is a made-up thing done later to mislead the "sheep" by the wolf/s" about which Jesus warned the sheep, please. Please correct me if I am wrong.
Regards

 

[FearGod]

He went by land, it was his choice. He was sent to the Israelites and 10 of the 12 tribes of them got settled in now Afghanistan, Pakistan and Kashmir, now in India.
Regarads

Do you believe the quran? was it hard to say that Jesus had moved towards India, but in fact the quran
explicitly said that Jesus was raised up to heaven after they thought that he was dead on the cross.

That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Apostle of God";- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) know ledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:-(4:157)

Nay, God raised him up unto Himself; and God is Exalted in Power, Wise;-(4:158)

 

[Sister Cyber]

) Jesus (on whom be peace) escaped death on the cross, and was cured

Correct. That's demonstrated in canonical scripture, but I just don't understand how the masses are lead into misinterpretation when it is so clear. I'm familiar with the Islamic religious belief that they don't believe Jesus was ever resurrected because they don't believe he died on the cross. According to them, Jesus only fell into a swoon on the Cross, but when he was taken down from it, he recovered then died a natural death at the good old age of 120. I'm familiar with the idea that during the years you hear nothing of him in the canon, he travelled to India and other lands, but I am not aware of sacred texts indicating where he travelled after he left the tomb, except those scriptures that speak of his 40-day activity with his disciples before they ate him.

Some use Ephesians 4:7-10 to teach that Jesus went to hell or to Hades to release the prisoners held there

It has become my understanding that Hell/Hades is actually located on earth (meaning not outside of this planet), possibly below the surface. It might be far-fetched for me to wonder if volcanos are portals into Hell/Hades... What do you think? I know it';s a little off-topic, but I'm just curious....

Really?

Yes. I understand that it may offend the sensibilities, but they ate him in accordance with his command to them in John 6:53 - "Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you," If you understand the Law and that his Israelite disciples were devout followers of it, then you would understand why they obeyed his command I quoted. They violated the Sabbath to tend to him when he was in the tomb, and Jesus being perfect became the ultimate sacrifice for their atonement (for their conscious violation of the Sabbath) by becoming the Lamb of God for them, his friends for whom he had so great a love that he laid down his life. I know it may be "hard to swallow" - at first it was for me too, but it's true my friend.

 

[FearGod]

Correct. I'm familiar with the Islamic religious belief that they don't believe Jesus was ever resurrected because they don't believe he died on the cross. According to them, Jesus only fell into a swoon on the Cross, but when he was taken down from it, he recovered then died a natural death at the good old age of 120. I'm familiar with the idea that during the years you hear nothing of him in the canon, he travelled to India and other lands, but I am not aware of sacred texts indicating where he travelled after he left the tomb, except those scriptures that speak of his 40-day activity with his disciples before they ate him.

That's the Ahmadia view and not the Islamic view.

 

[paarsurrey]

but I just don't understand how the masses are lead into misinterpretation when it is so clear.

When Jesus set out towards India, the "wolf" realizing Jesus had gone outside of Judea and Roman Empire and cannot be caught again killed or persecuted came up with Jesus' character assassination and spoiling his teachings, "in the name of Jesus" he cleverly misled "the sheep" or the masses from the right path. Jesus had warned the sheep beforehand:

Matthew 7:15
15“Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves.
http://biblehub.com/niv/matthew/7.htm​

Alas! they could not save themselves from him/them.
I am expressing what I believe sincerely with reasons without disrespect to anybody, in search of truth. Welcome to differ with me with reason.

Regards

 

[The_Fisher_King]

What happened to Jesus?

He continued to travel around the region of Galilee and surrounding lands preaching God's Message until death overcame him in the natural way of things (he did not die on the cross). He was then born again into this world, where the Devil and their servants entrapped him, so that he forgot his true identity and became lost in the world over successive reincarnations. But he will return (with the knowledge of who he truly is, and his Mission).

 

[blue taylor]

He was buried in Kashmir.

 

[paarsurrey]

He was buried in Kashmir.

Yes, in the land of high mountains and natural springs:

[23:51] And We made the son of Mary and his mother a Sign, and gave them refuge on an elevated land of green valleys and springs of running water.
http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/showChapter.php?ch=23&verse=50

Regards

 

[FearGod]

I don't know what the importance of such discussion about how Jesus died.

Some will say he died on the cross and some others will say he didn't die on the cross and both
Christians and Muslims are discussing something that they didn't see and have no knowledge
about, at the end he died whether on the cross or not, so end this as it has no benefit at all.

Call the police and they'll investigate the matter.

 

[The_Fisher_King]

I don't know what the importance of such discussion about how Jesus died.

Some will say he died on the cross and some others will say he didn't die on the cross and both
Christians and Muslims are discussing something that they didn't see and have no knowledge
about, at the end he died whether on the cross or not, so end this as it has no benefit at all.

Call the police and they'll investigate the matter.

Salaam,

Allaah deemed it important enough to make a Statement about it in His Holy Qur'aan.

Wassalaam

 

[FearGod]

Salaam,

Allaah deemed it important enough to make a Statement about it in His Holy Qur'aan.

Wassalaam

Telling ancient events in the quran doesn't mean discussing its details, for example the story of Abraham
and the sacrifice of his one son, some will say he was Isaac and some others will say he was Ishmael.

 

[The_Fisher_King]

Telling ancient events in the quran doesn't mean discussing its details, for example the story of Abraham
and the sacrifice of his one son, some will say he was Isaac and some others will say he was Ishmael.

Salaam,

Right, but it does seem to be important to distinguish whether 'Iesa died on the cross or not (else why did Allaah make the Statement that you earlier quoted?).

Wassalaam

 

[FearGod]

Salaam,

Right, but it does seem to be important to distinguish whether 'Iesa died on the cross or not (else why did Allaah make the Statement that you earlier quoted?).

Wassalaam

It tells about what had happened in that times, they thought that they caught Jesus and killed him
but they killed him not, end of the story.

 

[The_Fisher_King]

It tells about what had happened in that times, they thought that they caught Jesus and killed him
but they killed him not, end of the story.

Salaam,

So it is important to know what happened to him, if only in this limited sense.

Wassalaam

 

[FearGod]

Salaam,

So it is important to know what happened to him, if only in this limited sense.

Wassalaam

Not knowing won't lead to hell.