What has happened to Protestantism?

[metis]

What can one really reply to that.

I hear ya.

 

[paarsurrey]

I greatly admire that you went out of your way to try to understand others not of your faith. I wish others did as much.

I'm so very sorry you had bad experiences with Jews. Jewish response varies. I've known some Jews who were part of highly insular communities, who felt that interaction with non-Jews would risk corruption. It would break my heart that some would not even say Hi back to non-Jews who would great them as they passed by on the street. It's so very sad when things like that happen. I don't think they fully understand the impact that they have on others.

But paarsurrey, not all Jews are like that. I attended a synagogue that was near a local university, and we ROUTINELY had visitors from the religion classes there. Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Atheists... and they were all made to feel very welcome. The Rabbi went out of his way to show them around, let them view the Torah scrolls, and have them sit with Jews during the oneg where they could ask all their questions. I wish you could have had *that* experience.

We also had quite a few Jews who were intermarried, and their spouses attended regularly. While they didn't have membership, we loved them and accepted them as part of our community.

I did not feel bad then or even now, I like Jews as they believe One G-d, and we can understand one another more than others, right, please?

Regards

 

[IndigoChild5559]

I did not feel bad then or even now, I like Jews as they believe One G-d, and we can understand one another more than others, right, please?

Regards

Yes, its easier for monotheists to understand other monotheists. But I also make the effort to understand polytheists, atheists, pantheists, animists, etc.

 

[sayak83]

Sorry but that’s just someone’s opinion.

Here is an actual statistic.

Among religious groups, Catholics show one of the larger drops in attendance, from 45% to 33%, while there are slightly smaller decreases among Orthodox (nine percentage points) and Hindu followers (eight points).

Church Attendance Has Declined in Most U.S. Religious Groups

Three in 10 Americans, but 67% of Mormons, attend church regularly. Most religious groups show declines in attendance over the past two decades.

news.gallup.com

Hindus and attendance?
Logical error...does not compute.

 

[Muffled]

I was baptized an Anglican a few weeks ago.

I am finding, however, that young Protestants (under 30 or 35) seem to take Protestantism to mean:

1. No liturgy.

2. No Tradition.

3. No Saints.

4. Bible only.

5. Rock music.

Etc.

This is not Anglicanism, the largest Protestant denomination in the world. This is not Lutheranism, either.

What is going on?

Do people think liturgy = RCC?

Saints = RCC?

Tradition = RCC?

I have grown up with Anglicanism and we have and always have had all these things.

Wtf is happening to Protestantism?

There has always been a division in Anglicanism between high church (Liturgy, saints, tradition) and low church. I am not familiar enough with Anglicanism to knw what the authority is for determining worship practices. I do remember something about a council denouncing the Episcopal Churches acceptance of homosexuality.

 

[Muffled]

protestantism has taking away the sacred in the church.. sad yes

angelican, catholic and ortdox chuches give people a feeling of awe and feeling the divine

by the way congratulations on being baptised

Does the music have to be a fugue in D minor to be sacred or can rock music be sacred also?

 

[Muffled]

I got baptised many years ago, and it counted because I was baptised into the Methodist Church, which is the American version of the Anglican Church, which is Trinitarian. Anyway, I digress. Congrats!

I don't know what has happened, but I do know that I attended a Methodist church till a few years ago, and it did not have saints per se, but it did have a liturgy and vestments and things like that. No rock music either. I liked it pretty well, but I prefer Roman Catholicism for me personally.

I believe music sometimes follows culture. I attended a Pentecostal service in a Spanish RCC with Spanish style music.

 

[Kathryn]

I believe music sometimes follows culture. I attended a Pentecostal service in a Spanish RCC with Spanish style music.

I am sure that you're right.

TRUE STORY TIME!

I was so excited because I was about to attend my first Rumba class. I called my daughter on the way and she said, "Is this your first class? OK, I don't want to say anything to color your perception but call me afterward." So I did so and honestly, the class was horrible. I found out that I have a MoTown body and not a Rumba body and that my body does not move that way. So I told my daughter that and she said "Mom. I couldn't get out of the room, so I just sat down on my mat and cried."

 

[metis]

I found out that I have a MoTown body

Now you're talking!!!

 

[Kathryn]

Now you're talking!!!

Damn straight.

 

[metis]

Damn straight.

Ya, but you don't look like Diana Ross!

BTW, my wife surprised me about 2 decades ago and unbeknownst to me when she got tickets for us to see her in concert, and I had tears in my eyes with that surprise. Great show from a classy lady!

 

[Kathryn]

Ya, but you don't look like Diana Ross!

BTW, my wife surprised me about 2 decades ago and unbeknownst to me when she got tickets for us to see her in concert, and I had tears in my eyes with that surprise. Great show from a classy lady!

LOL no I do not look one bit like Diana Ross, other than being a woman. Which is the sex I was born as and the gender I call myself, to be clear.

Anyway, the closest I ever came to that experience was seeing the Gap Band in concert, during their heyday, and they were fantastic! It was a very mixed crowd, as you can probably imagine, and great fun was had by all! "Burn rubber on me!!!"

 

[Whateverist]

CATHOLIC, ORTODOX, ANGLICAN MUSIC

VS PROTESTANT MUSIC

WELL I BELIEVE THE FIRST SONG IS BEST. IT FEELS MORE SACRED

Oh God yes! The second is drippy and the other creates an atmosphere to contemplate the sacred. Church without all the legalistic harping would be better, though I can't complain. I"ve never been to a church except to throw my old dad a bone by coming with him to his Methodist church. Bunch of vipers. Never went back.

 

[paarsurrey]

What has happened to Protestantism?

IndigoChild5559 said:
Just curious. Do Muslims ever ask for the prayers of others? Or do they instruct fellow muslims to only pray to God?
paarsurrey wrote:
The answer is in very first chapter:

1:2 All praise belongs to Allah, Lord of all the worlds,
1:5 Thee alone do we worship and Thee alone do we implore for help. Holy Quran: Read, Listen and Search
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Original Arabic narration/text from Muhammad's time is below:-
1:2 اَلۡحَمۡدُ لِلّٰہِ رَبِّ الۡعٰلَمِیۡنَ ۙ﴿۲
1:5 اِیَّاکَ نَعۡبُدُ وَاِیَّاکَ نَسۡتَعِیۡنُ ؕ﴿۵
OOO

Okay, you quote looks to me like your answer is NO, meaning that if i were Muslim I would never ask someone else to pray for me. I will assume this is the case, unless you correct me. And thank you for your reply.

1. We can pray for all the worlds as G-d is Lord of everybody a believer or a non-believer.
I also go to the Churches of different denominations and worship houses of other religions, after the salutation, I tell them as to what religion I belong to, and that I want just to get familiar and friendly with them , and I will attend the service as an observer and won't join their worship, they most often welcome me and let me in.
I don't debate with them or ask any questions . When I enter the hall I wave to everybody as a gesture of goodwill and they like it.

24:28
O ye who believe! enter not houses other than your own until you have asked leave and saluted the inmates thereof. That is better for you, that you may be heedful.
Holy Quran: Read, Listen and Search
Right?

Regards
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Original Arabic narration/text from Muhammad's time is below:-
24:28
یٰۤاَیُّہَا الَّذِیۡنَ اٰمَنُوۡا لَا تَدۡخُلُوۡا بُیُوۡتًا غَیۡرَ بُیُوۡتِکُمۡ حَتّٰی تَسۡتَاۡنِسُوۡا وَتُسَلِّمُوۡا عَلٰۤی اَہۡلِہَا ؕ ذٰلِکُمۡ خَیۡرٌ لَّکُمۡ لَعَلَّکُمۡ تَذَکَّرُوۡنَ ﴿۲۸