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what i like about the Tea Party

Magic Man

Reaper of Conversation
Oh, but I have, Smurphie....I saw the name change, but it sure seemed like we were still there in a big way....you know, all the spending & death.
It looked at odds with White House press releases, so I discounted them. If you have info on troop reductions I asked for, I'll be glad to look at it.
I didn't catch it on NPR.

Huh? Did you mean to post this in response to AE? This has nothing to do with anything I've said here.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Huh? Did you mean to post this in response to AE? This has nothing to do with anything I've said here.
I didn't say I asked you, but since you're aware of it, I'd be glad to look at what you have.
This isn't about arguing...just information gathering.
 

Magic Man

Reaper of Conversation
I didn't say I asked you, but since you're aware of it, I'd be glad to look at what you have.
This isn't about arguing...just information gathering.

:areyoucra OK, now you lost me. I made a statement, and you asked for a source for it. I told you the source was the last 1.5 years, and then you started talking about a completely different subject than the statement I made that made you ask for a source.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
:areyoucra OK, now you lost me. I made a statement, and you asked for a source for it. I told you the source was the last 1.5 years, and then you started talking about a completely different subject than the statement I made that made you ask for a source.
Forget I posted anything.
 

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
As I watch American politics over a very wide and watery side walk.
I am struck but the American notion of compromise.
It would not be recognised as such anywhere else in the world.
It is all about horse trading
And I scratch your back if you scratch mine.

Money... power... and world of the card sharp, would be nearer to the truth of what is going on.

Congressmen and senators only wear the clothes of republicans and democrats some of the time.
They vote as a career move, or as an investment, on the side of the best long term opportunity offered to them at the time.
They only vote a straight party ticket, when the alternative is less attractive.

The tea baggers fit this scenario very badly indeed, but will soon get the hang of it.
 
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Alceste

Vagabond

I linked to an article relating the fact that the ONLY item on the agenda of the centrally organized tea party appears to be getting the Republicans back behind the wheel. You think the Republicans are going to stop the wall street bailouts or the expensive foreign wars?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I linked to an article relating the fact that the ONLY item on the agenda of the centrally organized tea party appears to be getting the Republicans back behind the wheel. You think the Republicans are going to stop the wall street bailouts or the expensive foreign wars?
Your links don't address mball's statements, for which I wanted a source.
I make no claims about what Republicans or Tea Partiers will do, but given that the latter
is a small percentage, & that the Dems are still in charge, I expect little real change.
Obama will continue to be Dubya junior.
 
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Reverend Rick

Frubal Whore
Premium Member
You don't seriously think that's the plan, do you? Have you been around at all? It would be great if they made government stop spending so much, but then they'd actually have to cut financing from the two unnecessary wars and/or programs like Social Security and Medicare. Are you saying you see any of those cuts coming from them?

I can get on board with ending two wars and reducing medicaid.
 

Reverend Rick

Frubal Whore
Premium Member
Rick, there's a whole world out here. Come out and learn about it sometime.
I've traveled the world and reached my own conclusions. I'm not going to address the rest of your personal remarks, but I will say they are a perfect example of Liberal elitism and condescension.

Matt, lets keep it civil. I really enjoy debating with you. We may have a different views of things, but that makes it interesting. Don't you agree?
 

Magic Man

Reaper of Conversation
I've traveled the world and reached my own conclusions. I'm not going to address the rest of your personal remarks, but I will say they are a perfect example of Liberal elitism and condescension.

Haha! The old fallback. When you've got nothing else, just claim "liberal elitism and condescension". Nice work.

Matt, lets keep it civil. I really enjoy debating with you. We may have a different views of things, but that makes it interesting. Don't you agree?

We generally don't debate. You make wild, crazy, unsupportable claims, and then I refute them and try to find out whether you have anything that could be considered support for them, and you just dismiss my comments as irrelevant, liberal elitism and condescension. Then in another thread a few days later, you make the same claims, I call you out on them again, and you ignore it again, moving on to comments about irrelevant things in either a deliberate or unintentional move to distract attention from what you said before. When someone calls you out on something, you generally don't even respond directly to them, just going on another rant that covers several different topics, most of which aren't even relevant.

If we were to have a real debate, you would make a claim, I would call you out on it (or agree with it), and you would try to support it directly, and acknowledge my evidence against it. If you want to do that, I'm more than willing.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
The source is the last 1.5 years. Haven't you been paying attention? ;)
I looked for something showing troop levels up thru last month, but couldn't find anything.
I'm curious about the extent of change, & just wanted the info....not argument. Since you're
so familiar with the issue, I thought you could provide a useful link. Instead, you keep asking
me if I've been paying attention, as though that proves your case. It's an odd non-discussion.
I'm beginning to wonder if your contention is yet again faith based.

Haha! The old fallback. When you've got nothing else, just claim "liberal elitism and condescension". Nice work.
Actually you are a liberal (modern, rather than classical variety), & you are elite, since you're
always telling us of your much vaunted reasoning ability & abundance of unbiased evidence,
especially compared to us uninformed & biased cons & libertarians. (You're also given to the
occasional lapse into condescension.) I'm sure that the good Rev was paying you a compliment.
So if the shoe fits, why not wear it?
 
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Magic Man

Reaper of Conversation
I looked for something showing troop levels up thru last month, but couldn't find anything. I'm curious about the extent of change, & just wanted the info....not argument. Since you're so familiar with the issue, I thought you could provide a useful link. Instead, you keep asking me if I've been paying attention, as though that proves your case. It's an odd non-discussion. I'm beginning to wonder if your contention is yet again faith based.

I think your senility is kicking in. Do you still think I made a claim about our troops in Iraq? Where did you get that idea?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I think your senility is kicking in. Do you still think I made a claim about our troops in Iraq? Where did you get that idea?
From you.
It's bad enuf that you don't read my posts before responding, but you should at least read your own.
 
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