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What if the story of Cain and Able is ....

outhouse

Atheistically
One part is that it parallels early civilization and the conflicts between nomadic lifestyle VS city life.

on the same side of the coin It also parallels the burnt meat smell god loves in sacrifices VS sacrifices from agriculture.
 

Ingledsva

HEATHEN ALASKAN
Ingledsva said:
I actually think it represents the first human sacrifice to YHVH, and the scape-goat concept.

Please tell me you're joking.

No, I'm not. We know the Hebrew originally had human sacrifice. There are plenty of books out there about it. And of course the Bible later tells the Hebrew people don't do it.

Note that they put a mark on him after the sacrifice/murder. A Jewish site that I was on said that the priest that killed the "scape-goat/human" was then marked so none would approach him, and sent off.

In other words a sacrifice takes on the sins - someone has to kill him as a sacrifice - then he the killer can't be killed (or someone would have his blood on their hands,) so he is marked and sent off.

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Behind the Wall

New Member
Cain committed the first murder. He was envious and jealous of Able and thought that by killing Able, that would get rid of his problem. God came to him and gave him a way out of this captivity of thought. He said, " you can master this demon knocking at your door."

God gave us the power to CHOOSE, and the power to overcome temptations to evil. It is our choice that we are responsible for. No matter what our choice is God still loves us. He waits and longs for the day that we will listen to His promptings and come back to Him and do the right thing.:yes:
 

Breathe

Hostis humani generis
I guess it's possibly to do with how nomads saw city dwellers. The same with Sodom and Gomorrah.
 

horizon_mj1

Well-Known Member
No, I'm not. We know the Hebrew originally had human sacrifice. There are plenty of books out there about it. And of course the Bible later tells the Hebrew people don't do it.

Note that they put a mark on him after the sacrifice/murder. A Jewish site that I was on said that the priest that killed the "scape-goat/human" was then marked so none would approach him, and sent off.
Does this not sound like the story of the Tower of Babble??

In other words a sacrifice takes on the sins - someone has to kill him as a sacrifice - then he the killer can't be killed (or someone would have his blood on their hands,) so he is marked and sent off.

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Do us humans not all wear skin?
 

Ingledsva

HEATHEN ALASKAN
Ingledsva said:
No, I'm not. We know the Hebrew originally had human sacrifice. There are plenty of books out there about it. And of course the Bible later tells the Hebrew people don't do it.

Does this not sound like the story of the Tower of Babble??

Not sure what you mean by this?

Do us humans not all wear skin?

Definitely have no idea what you mean here.

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I always found it interesting that in 10 we are told that the people are being dispersed and have different languages - THEN - in 11 - we are told the Babel story and told that this is where they get the different languages and are dispersed.

Gen 10:5 By these the coasts of the nations were divided in their lands each by his tongue, by their families, in their nations.

Gen 11:8 So the LORD scattered them abroad from thence upon the face of all the earth: and they left off to build the city.
Gen 11:9 Therefore is the name of it called Babel; because the LORD did there confound the language of all the earth: and from thence did the LORD scatter them abroad upon the face of all the earth.
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horizon_mj1

Well-Known Member
Well, Ingledsva, if you do not know what the Tower of Babble story is or what skin is, then I must have lost something along the way.

 

Ingledsva

HEATHEN ALASKAN
Well, Ingledsva, if you do not know what the Tower of Babble story is or what skin is, then I must have lost something along the way.

Very funny. What does the Tower of Babel story, and human skin, have to do with interpretations of the Cain and Abel story?

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horizon_mj1

Well-Known Member
Very funny. What does the Tower of Babel story, and human skin, have to do with interpretations of the Cain and Abel story?

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The story of Adam and Eve is a representation of the separation of man and women; the story of the Tower of Babel is a representation of the separation of language.
 

Gjallarhorn

N'yog-Sothep
Maybe they were continual sacrifices; to build and deconstruct within and without planetary solar systems.:yes:

...and somehow God preferred meaty sub-atomic particles to floral sub-atomic particles?

Sounds like wishful thinking. The Bible is not a science book.
 
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