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What if there's no God?

Jeremiah

Jeremiah

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AxisMundi said:
"What if there's no God?"

The original post. Note the G. Only one god is generally capitalized in that matter, the god of the Abrahamics, Jehovah.

If you are going to take te thread in another direction, then you need to be more concise.

In reply to the above...

Who says that in a deterministic reality with one omnipotent Godhead demiurge, said deity didn't create us with free will already in palce, ie the ability to act ourside of said Godhead's own "personality" and views?
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"If you are going to take te thread in another direction, then you need to be more concise."

I didn't take the thread in another direction. You need to limber up that mind some, drop notions like this, "Only one god is generally capitalized in that matter, the god of the Abrahamics, Jehovah.".

Many people capitalized God and they are not always in reference to Abraham's god. Forget religious gods, your god, and actual gods, you are going have to have a much more flexible mind to understand people when they start using the G word. I suggest morning stretches.
 
AxisMundi

AxisMundi

E Pluribus Unum!!!
Jeremiah said:
"If you are going to take te thread in another direction, then you need to be more concise."

I didn't take the thread in another direction. You need to limber up that mind some, drop notions like this, "Only one god is generally capitalized in that matter, the god of the Abrahamics, Jehovah.".

Many people capitalized God and they are not always in reference to Abraham's god. Forget religious gods, your god, and actual gods, you are going have to have a much more flexible mind to understand people when they start using the G word. I suggest morning stretches.
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I suggest using terminology that everyone else uses, or if you're going to use your own personal thesaurus, laying out what you actually mean when you state something.
 
sonofskeptish

sonofskeptish

It is what it is
Q: What if there's no God?
A: Some people would live in reality. Some people would still pretend he/she/it/they exist(s). And others would still ask questions like "what if there's no God?" Basically the situation would be EXACTLY the same as it is now.
 
Silver

Silver

Just maybe
Silver said:
What if there's no God?
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Can I suggest making contact with scientists to see if they can design an afterlife world for everybody,
and also see if they can design a device to transport our consciousness to a new body in this new world,
and also see if they can solve how to access the past to get everyone who has ever lived out!

(Am I crazy?):facepalm:
 
Mr.Lost

Mr.Lost

Mr.Lost
Jeremiah said:
What does my question say?
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Yes see this question was one of those questions no one is suppose to Answer. The idea is what it boils down to in you head. What makes sense to you? Not to one over there or there. Once again this is called faith and religion the whole dam thing that is spread around a number of these forums in what to look for. No one can truly make up another’s mind and me as agonistic know what people feel like when things don’t add up. Well that’s about sums it up lol :rolleyes:
 
Mr.Lost

Mr.Lost

Mr.Lost
NO in a blind faith way of thinking how can one say It is Hypothetical. To them its real. You are nothing more then pushing one side. If you flip a coin over and hide one side and are told there is only one side of the coin can you truly say there is not another side (if you are not able to see that side)?
 
McBell

McBell

Unbound
Shia Islam said:
Thanks Silver for this nice question,
Indeed our imams [the shia 12 Imams] have responded to this assumption,
In that case [if there's no God] we believer would have lost nothing,
As we have enjoyed this life,
We lived it to the full, in the best possible way of living it; as avoiding sins can only bring good in this life ad the here after...So we enjoyed this life more than the non-believers.

On the other hand if there is God...then the non-believers would be in trouble in the hereafter.
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Personally, I do not believe that any deity that would be fooled by Pascal's Wager is worthy of worship.

But then, I guess I have a much higher standard of God than those who like Pascal's Wager.
 
Shia Islam

Shia Islam

Quran and Ahlul-Bayt a.s.
Premium Member
Mestemia said:
Personally, I do not believe that any deity that would be fooled by Pascal's Wager is worthy of worship.

But then, I guess I have a much higher standard of God than those who like Pascal's Wager.
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The answer of our Imams is completely different than Pascal's Wager idea.

We believe that God can be proved by reason.

And we response to the a supposition by the unbelievers, that based on their belief, we lose nothing by believing on God.

and based on our belief you lose everything by not believing on God.

So this is completely different than Pascal's Wager theorization.
 
K

Kerr

Well-Known Member
Shia Islam said:
The answer of our Imams is completely different than Pascal's Wager idea.

We believe that God can be proved by reason.

And we response to the a supposition by the unbelievers, that based on their belief, we lose nothing by believing on God.

and based on our belief you lose everything by not believing on God.

So this is completely different than Pascal's Wager theorization.
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Actually that is not entierly true. According to some you would end up in Hell because of your faith. Fact is no matter what faith you have you will always risk eternal suffering. It is never about winning or loosing as I see it, no matter what faith you have there are always risks, it is about walking the path where you belong.

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Also, I am not sure that if God exist I would gain his favor by believing in him out of fear of what may happen if I don´t. It is like being kind to someone because they may hurt you if you don´t make sure they like you.
 
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