What if Tim Tebow Were a Muslim?

[Reverend Rick]

Sure Rev. You go on thinking that.

Everyone knows I slept my way to the top.

Yes you did. :yes:

I tried that as well and had terrible results even though I wore your panties.

 

[YmirGF]

If the Elbow or whatever his name is, was Muslim, I can assure you that, in general, the media wouldn't say anything negative about him - not if they wanted to keep their jobs. If anything, they would probably trip over themselves to spread a prayer mat for him.

 

[Falvlun]

If the Elbow or whatever his name is, was Muslim, I can assure you that, in general, the media wouldn't say anything negative about him - not if they wanted to keep their jobs. If anything, they would probably trip over themselves to spread a prayer mat for him.

I do not think actuality corresponds with your hypothesis. The media hardly goes out of its way to cater to Muslims, and the reaction of the American populace-- which is actually what we are talking about in regards to Tebow-- is even less favorably inclined.

 

[YmirGF]

I do not think actuality corresponds with your hypothesis. The media hardly goes out of its way to cater to Muslims, and the reaction of the American populace-- which is actually what we are talking about in regards to Tebow-- is even less favorably inclined.

I disagree and tend to support what Kathryn stated earlier. I don't think it would be as big a deal as his Christian faith is made out to be, because only a few souls would dare to poke their heads up to have themselves instantly labelled as Islamophobes. So, does that mean the current hysteria against Tebow is Christianophobia?

 

[Falvlun]

I disagree and tend to support what Kathryn stated earlier. I don't think it would be as big a deal as his Christian faith is made out to be, because only a few souls would dare to poke their heads up to have themselves instantly labelled as Islamophobes. So, does that mean the current hysteria against Tebow is Christianophobia?

It is interesting that you only notice the much smaller anti-Tebow sentiment out there. The general feeling, both within the media and the populace, is that Tebow is great, isn't his faith wonderful, what a nice young man he is, and even "if Tebow wins, I'm gonna go to church this Sunday!". There is an element of Christianophobia in a small, vocal minority, but the overwhelming message is ridiculously positive. Hardly a hysteria against Tebow. The hysteria is unabashedly in his favor.

In contrast, a Muslim Tebow would have that small, vocal Islamophobe minority without the much larger positive vibe that the Christian Tebow enjoys.

 

[Drolefille]

I disagree and tend to support what Kathryn stated earlier. I don't think it would be as big a deal as his Christian faith is made out to be, because only a few souls would dare to poke their heads up to have themselves instantly labelled as Islamophobes. So, does that mean the current hysteria against Tebow is Christianophobia?

I have watched enough 24 hour news channels to know that there'll be plenty of people "unafraid" of playing the "I'm just asking questions" card when it comes to religion and Islam. For example, would any charity work that Tebow did be suspect because of who he donated to? Legitimate charities get lumped in with terror groups because they're Muslim.

My only issue with Tebow is his Focus on the Family ads from whichever Super Bowl that was. FotF are horrible people, in my opinion. Otherwise he just seems showy and I suspect he does it because of the response it gets, but I could be wrong.

 

[waitasec]

he wouldn't be the 'tim tebow' we are familiar with...
he would be a more interesting tim tebow, but familiarity is key in an 'american' sport.

 

[connermt]

I like Tim Tebow, I think he's a great role model.

What has he done to make you feel this way?

 

[connermt]

I'm a Christian and don't feel that way at all. I think your judgmentalism is very telling.

Sounds like you're judging me there....:sarcastic
I call it as I see it based upon past experiences. And the fact that I've been a christian for decades. Fortunately, I overcame that time in my life and realized that I don't need a ghost deity telling me what to do, think, say and how to act.

 

[connermt]

why stop there?

what if he were a Hindu or a Buddhist or a Wiccan or a Satanist?

freedom of religion stands in the shadow/wake of freedom of popular opinion.

Many religious people are OK with freedom of religion so long as it's their religion.
You let a practing satanist do the same thing on TV and watch people flip their lids....

 

[ChristineES]

Sounds like you're judging me there....:sarcastic
I call it as I see it based upon past experiences. And the fact that I've been a christian for decades. Fortunately, I overcame that time in my life and realized that I don't need a ghost deity telling me what to do, think, say and how to act.

Saying that "All Christians are ________" is generalizing and stereotyping. The fact that someone used to be a Christian doesn't make generalizing all Christians right. It is the use of the word "ALL". If you would have said "some", "the ones I used to know", or even "when I was a Christian, I" would have made all the difference in the world.

 

[waitasec]

Saying that "All Christians are ________" is generalizing and stereotyping. The fact that someone used to be a Christian doesn't make generalizing all Christians right. It is the use of the word "ALL". If you would have said "some", "the ones I used to know", or even "when I was a Christian, I" would have made all the difference in the world.

i agree

 

[9Westy9]

I don't get why it's such a big deal.

same here.

As for the question my view will remain the same. Let him do what he wants (within reason)

 

[Kathryn]

A major difference is that Tim Tebow is implying that his religion is right, and all other religions are wrong, about the truth. In addition, many Christians believe that God will punish unbelievers after they die. Some believe in an eternal hell for unbelievers, and others believe in annihilation. Either punishment would be deplorable, and unfair from an alleged being who withholds evidence that would convince more people to accept him if they were aware of it. I am tired of people of various religious claiming that they have good evidence that a certain God exists, and what his agenda are. If a God exists, no one knows who he is, and what his agenda are.

Tim Tebow is not the major issue. The major issue is the truthfulness of the Bible.

Has Tim Tebow ever said or hinted that other religions are wrong, or that he doesn't respect the rights of others to hold differing beliefs?

By the way, atheists en masse don't have a great track record of tolerance.

I'm just sayin'.

 

[InformedIgnorance]

Hmmn I think he would probably not be AS popular as he is now, though he would still be popular. He would also be less likely both as a result of the reduced popularity AND because of the non-Christian status to receive sponsorships from organisations that have a christian bent (which in america is a few) though not less likely from major sponsors who really don't care much about anything other than how readily their name gets seen.

He would probably also have a much more significant crowd saying that while his own faith is up to him, he should save his prayers until after the game.

 

[connermt]

Saying that "All Christians are ________" is generalizing and stereotyping. The fact that someone used to be a Christian doesn't make generalizing all Christians right. It is the use of the word "ALL". If you would have said "some", "the ones I used to know", or even "when I was a Christian, I" would have made all the difference in the world.

Did I say ALL christians....?
Nope - that's what you said.
Sounds defensive

 

[ForeverFaithful]

There are exceptions to every rule. Besides, it was a comment in general, as I don't know every, single christian alive today - of course.
But I would bet that, after a time, you too would feel the same way to some degree.

Christians tend to be very fearful of other beliefs. Which is odd since they are "right", they should have nothing to fear...

But the lack of understanding something always tend to lead to fear.

Yes groups do tend to follow trends we you call everyone else outside of that an exception

"All men are pigs!"

"But aren't I okay?"

"Oh you don't count."

 

[ChristineES]

Did I say ALL christians....?
Nope - that's what you said.
Sounds defensive

Your posts seem to put Christians into neat little boxes, if someone doesn't act in the preconceived way, they are "different" from other Christians. But that isn't the way it is. Christians are individuals, same as everyone else. Maybe you don't mean to sound that way, but you do to me and to a couple of others I have seen.

And heck yes, I was defensive- I get tired of all the stereotyping.

 

[connermt]

Your posts seem to put Christians into neat little boxes, if someone doesn't act in the preconceived way, they are "different" from other Christians. But that isn't the way it is. Christians are individuals, same as everyone else. Maybe you don't mean to sound that way, but you do to me and to a couple of others I have seen.

And heck yes, I was defensive- I get tired of all the stereotyping.

If all christians worship the same god correctly, there should be little differences between them all; they should all agree or disagree on the same issue; there would be no different sects of the same religion; etc. aka "neat little boxes" (your term, not mine).

And frankly, I couldn't care less how I seem to anyone. You're free to like it or not. Simple pimple.

 

[ChristineES]

If all christians worship the same god correctly, there should be little differences between them all; they should all agree or disagree on the same issue; there would be no different sects of the same religion; etc. aka "neat little boxes" (your term, not mine).

And frankly, I couldn't care less how I seem to anyone. You're free to like it or not. Simple pimple.

Same to you, pal, I feel the same way- if someone doesn't like who I am, I can't change them nor would I want to- live and let live. This is the last I am going to say anything about this. God bless you.