What if...

[zenzero]

Friend Runewolf,
Yes, your understanding is right as it is said there is ORDER even IN DISORDER.
The coming Ice age is not the first and after a warming period there again comes a cooling period when again the ice will start to form,
Love & rgds

 

[Darkwater]

Scotland get's nuclear waste with a half live of millions of years too,as well as some of the Islands off my west coast covered in Anthrax spoors since the 1940's which will last well into the next Century.....

mmm,I love the political sphere.

Soon I will glow in the dark.

 

[zenzero]

Friend Darkwater,
Be it nuclear energy or human energy the ENERGY in both are the same except their FORMS.

Love & rgds

 

[Darkwater]

Some energy can turn you into a microwaved exoskeleton if you are exposed to it....I prefer to chose life,indeed prefer to have the choice.....as opposed to take Scotland or leave it.

mmm,maybe try to tap into it from a safe distance.

 

[Falvlun]

If it was definitively proven that God and heaven did not exist, I think there would be mass riots, which would lead directly to civil wars, which would lead to a world war, which would end in nuclear destruction.

Why?

People would freak.

Their most cherished beliefs have just been proven laughable. Their most cherished hope has just been shown to be a dream. People do not react kindly to their beliefs being disproven and their hopes dashed.

 

[Darkwater]

Came to my own understanding of what you meant by the earth "already is in balance". The way it stands, all this is just another swing of the pendulum. It swings back and then forth again, but regardless of which direction, it is always in balance. The earth right now could be said to be in a "backswing" with all the pollution and ecological turmoil. That like everything else will soon enough change and the earth yet again will be in it's "forward" swing. The earth will be renewed one way or another. Thank you for helping me to realize this.

I felt the same when friend Zen Zero revealed the *pendulum* which transcends very beautifully & easily.

Hey ZZ,we are still coming out of the last Ice Age as far as I am aware,the Glacier merely receding just now?

Great Love,

DW

 

[S-word]

Friend Runewolf,

It is a fact that neither is there any god/s or heaven/hell.
The are mind concepts created by the minds of humans.
Concepts too evolve and time it did and that realisation did come that god & heaven are conceptual and by now they are not needed anymore to understand reality.
About saving earth; again it needs to be understood that nothing is permanent not even the earth or the sun; they too are forms that will change except that ENERGY which you mention.
Love & rgds

The constant changing of that energy which you mentioned, into matter then back into energy again, and the eternal growth of the intellecct that develops in the eternal constant, is permanent.

 

[tennis_hero]

IF it were possible to prove god did not exist, with only science taking his place, and no supernatural phenomena taking his place, i would think life would be pretty sad, but then i think an atheists life is pretty sad

People would die, people would kill for pointless meaningless reasons- hate would still be hate and death would still be death

relative to the life of the planet thus far we live for barely a moment, and then we die, and with death we lose all our memories, all our friends, our lovers, our families, everything we've ever held dear, all gone forever- that kind of mind state would make anyone miserable, I can't imagine how any atheist past a certain age (because when you are young you rarely contemplate death) could ever find anything of worth knowing they would be dead soon

without Jesus, i don't think life would really matter as much- if i thought that this life was all there was, and no matter what i did, it would all be gone forever, i'd lose hope in it all- but with my personal faith that no matter what happens, on the "otherside" life truly begins, makes this life all the more exciting because the bonds, friendships and loves in this life, are sure to carry on to an eternity in the next.... truly life is worth living then

 

[Runewolf1973]

IF it were possible to prove god did not exist, with only science taking his place, and no supernatural phenomena taking his place, i would think life would be pretty sad, but then i think an atheists life is pretty sad

People would die, people would kill for pointless meaningless reasons- hate would still be hate and death would still be death

relative to the life of the planet thus far we live for barely a moment, and then we die, and with death we lose all our memories, all our friends, our lovers, our families, everything we've ever held dear, all gone forever- that kind of mind state would make anyone miserable, I can't imagine how any atheist past a certain age (because when you are young you rarely contemplate death) could ever find anything of worth knowing they would be dead soon

without Jesus, i don't think life would really matter as much- if i thought that this life was all there was, and no matter what i did, it would all be gone forever, i'd lose hope in it all- but with my personal faith that no matter what happens, on the "otherside" life truly begins, makes this life all the more exciting because the bonds, friendships and loves in this life, are sure to carry on to an eternity in the next.... truly life is worth living then

My point was to make a hypothetical "what if" if there be no God or Heaven, not that there would be no afterlife as in a spirit world. Neither God nor Heaven needs to exist for there to be a spirit world. For an atheist this question is probably irrelevant as they don't believe in either.

 

[Katzpur]

Just a hypothetical question.....

What if you were to find out today that God and Heaven did not exist and there was no such thing as a "saviour"? How would this knowing affect your view of this planet of ours and what would be your plans for the future? Do you think this planet would be any better off if humans all over realized the only thing really worth "saving" and protecting for the benefit of humankind's future was THIS EARTH? What if there was no Heaven to look forward to? Just wondering what you would think. What, if anything, would change?

Personally, I'd have no desire to go on living.

 

[Runewolf1973]

Personally, I'd have no desire to go on living.

That seems to indicate that you don't appreciate the life you have now. All that matters to you is God and getting to go to Heaven? I find life quite enjoyable and rewarding without God or Heaven. But that's just me.

 

[Katzpur]

That seems to indicate that you don't appreciate the life you have now. All that matters to you is God and getting to go to Heaven? I find life quite enjoyable and rewarding without God or Heaven. But that's just me.

Well, that's good. There are times when I find life rewarding and enjoyable, but there are other times when it's downright miserable. At those times, if I didn't see some purpose in the trials, and figured that it was just going to go on and on like that for years and then just come to an abrupt halt, I don't think I'd particularly see much purpose in living.

 

[Runewolf1973]

Well, that's good. There are times when I find life rewarding and enjoyable, but there are other times when it's downright miserable. At those times, if I didn't see some purpose in the trials, and figured that it was just going to go on and on like that for years and then just come to an abrupt halt, I don't think I'd particularly see much purpose in living.

I can appreciate your perspective. It does help to know that there is some purpose to all things life throws at us. To know that all that we do is not just meaningless stuff. I do believe in some sort of "destiny" and that some force, energy, "God" or whatever "directs" our personal journey through life. From what I understand there are many different animals and such that go through life trials not always nice, but even those animals possess a strong desire to live and to survive. I don't think they conceive of any kind of a reward in the end or God or Heaven. There might be something to be learned from that. Thank you for your opinion.

 

[Sunstone]

Just a hypothetical question.....

What if you were to find out today that God and Heaven did not exist and there was no such thing as a "saviour"? How would this knowing affect your view of this planet of ours and what would be your plans for the future? Do you think this planet would be any better off if humans all over realized the only thing really worth "saving" and protecting for the benefit of humankind's future was THIS EARTH? What if there was no Heaven to look forward to? Just wondering what you would think. What, if anything, would change?

"You are your own refuge. There is no other refuge." -- the Buddha.

People have been dealing with the fact there is no savior for thousands of years -- if not much, much longer.

 

[Katzpur]

People have been dealing with the fact there is no savior for thousands of years -- if not much, much longer.

Actually, they've been dealing with their opinion that there is no Savior. Whether it's fact or not remains to be seen.

 

[Darkwater]

Crying won't help,praying won't help,money won't help,religion won't help.....there is no help,only self help.

Choose Life,wherever possible.Even in death choose life.

 

[Spiritone]

What if a Savior has given us directions on how to best live many times in many places but we still keep looking and waiting? Also we should take care of the earth whether we believe in a Creator or not imo.

 

[Darkwater]

Be the difference,be the change....the earth shall shrug us off like flea's when the time comes.

Know thyself!

 

[Spiritone]

I've come to believe that it's not enough to just be as ideal as possible but to share any knowledge you find with worthy people..

 

[Darkwater]

seek & yeah shall find..lulz......the Void has many mansions