mr.guy
crapsack
Why is that necessary?
"Being" is a perspective, no? Awarness of such, or of anything doesn't strike me as all that important.
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What is a 'Being'?
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"Being" is a perspective, no? Awarness of such, or of anything doesn't strike me as all that important.
Guitar's Cry
Disciple of Pan
Sarte was influenced by Heidegger, so it makes sense. I believe Husserl uses these comparisons as well, though I haven't read him yet beyond his influences on Sarte.
Are you "being" if you're not aware?
I read a bit about that yesterday. According to the Great Wiki, Heidegger said he was misunderstood by Sarte.
mr.guy
crapsack
Mercifully, i am.
I credit that to my inaffable and flaky views of what awareness is, though.
tumbleweed41
Resident Liberal Hippie
Are we talking about "being" (verb) or a "Being" (noun)?
Either/both.
Sun Myung Moon
Member
A bean is a thing I put in chili, lots of them and a variety of them, black beans, red beans, etc. they have lots of fiber so they tend to make a lot of noise.
tumbleweed41
Resident Liberal Hippie
The bean is being, but not a Being.
Guitar's Cry
Disciple of Pan
I think being requires awareness. In order to "be," it needs to exist in a temporal and spatial--though, maybe not?--relationship. In other words, without measurement of some kind, there is no way to determine that something "be."
Temporal and spatial measurement require an observer to define points in relation to each other.
Temporal and spatial measurement require an observer to define points in relation to each other.
Ozzie
Well-Known Member
What is being is a better question.
mr.guy
crapsack
Aren't these just "states of being", for lack of a better term?
To messily paraphrase Satre, the perception of being and distinguishment from and of other beings does not likely speak of the whole of the observed being; does this make being inherent, or being a product of awareness?
Guitar's Cry
Disciple of Pan
Sure, but what is "being" without being a state? In order to discuss being, we are forced to describe it in its own state. It is rather like how Heidegger declares that in order to describe Nothing, we must make it into Something.
I think that's what you mean, right?
I would suggest that Being is a product of, and necessary for awareness. It can be both, right? In order to Be, there must be a relationship. In order for there to be a relationship, there must be an observer to relate the two things. In order for awareness, there must something Be to be aware of.
truth_in_suffering
New Member
A being would have to be self-aware, a being would have to have the ability to think... Can a divine being question his own existance? Hmmm..
tumbleweed41
Resident Liberal Hippie
I think their is some confusion between "self-aware" and "sapient".
A porcupine is "self-aware" and is therefor a "being".
However, the porcupine is not "sapient". It is not an "intelligent being" .
Edited-Thanks Storm
A porcupine is "self-aware" and is therefor a "being".
However, the porcupine is not "sapient". It is not an "intelligent being" .
Edited-Thanks Storm
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Storm
ThrUU the Looking Glass
Actually, tumbleweed, a porcupine is sentient. It's not sapient.
To the OP, I use "being" as synonymous with "entity," though I'm not sure how helpful the dictionary is:
To the OP, I use "being" as synonymous with "entity," though I'm not sure how helpful the dictionary is:
en⋅ti⋅ty noun, plural -ties.
1. something that has a real existence; thing: corporeal entities.
2. being or existence, esp. when considered as distinct, independent, or self-contained: He conceived of society as composed of particular entities requiring special treatment.
To me, it means something like "creature" or "life form," only stripped of the implication of biological life. It's all rather vague, sorry.1. something that has a real existence; thing: corporeal entities.
2. being or existence, esp. when considered as distinct, independent, or self-contained: He conceived of society as composed of particular entities requiring special treatment.
tumbleweed41
Resident Liberal Hippie
My bad, I need to wake up this morning!!!:sleep:
Gonna edit it to get it right, thanks Storm.
