Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
Not effectively.
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What Is A Social Justice Warrior?
- Thread starter Rival
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Not effectively.
Satans_Serrated_Edge
Deicidal
If a 'nazi'(and everything that term represents these days, not to be confused with a national socialist) represents the extreme right, the SJW is the leftist equivalent.Go.
I want you to know I rated you 'Useful' sarcastically! -_-
I think it's worth noting that even those who are really against SJWs and think it's an existent phenomenon here only say they humiliate people. Not gather them into camps and gas them on account of their ancestry, ideology, sexual orientation etc. Although I do take note of your implication that the label 'nazi' is often spuriously used, which I agree with.
Satans_Serrated_Edge
Deicidal
Well you are comparing extreme right stuff to moderate left stuff. Of course the content will differ.
SJWs(left Nazis) take it much further than attempted humiliation. They riot, loot, assault, and lobby(with some success) for restrictions on liberties that might cause someone, somewhere, to have hurt feelings;which in and of itself has implications every bit as serious and damaging as a full blown Hitler regime.
Honestly, none of that seems to even approach what the Nazis wanted to do.
Satans_Serrated_Edge
Deicidal
Well, to our accepted version of history, in which he more closely resembles a die hard villain than an actual historical leader. I'll concede that much.
Well, that may be so, although as far as I could tell, most people already accepted interracial relationships, same-sex relationships, gender identity, etc. even back in the 1980s (and even in the 70s, to a large extent).
The Nazis did conduct genocide though. That much is true.
In the USA, approval of interracial relationships reached a majority of the population between 1995 and 1998. In 1958, approval was 4%.
Concentration camps and the like are not a matter of choosing a "version of history", though.
Okay, well, I wasn't going by polls, but just my general impression of living through those times and recognizing that most people had accepted it. Of course, my grandmother and others of her generation were against it - and maybe they were still around in sufficient numbers to skew whatever poll results there might have been. But they're not around anymore.
Yeah, it's a fairly solid majority now. Just as same-sex marriage has, in the last few years, reached majority approval in the USA.
Honestly, I think it's very obvious that much of the acceptance of same-sex relationships, the improvements in respect for women, the improvements in respect for people of minority ethnic backgrounds etc, has come in the last 15-20 years.
Nah, I saw more progress between 1960 & 1970.
There might've been a lot of progress before that, but I was
busy watching Captain Kangaroo, & didn't pay attention.
As has the radicalization that IMO arose from the perception that such shifts in acceptance can't be overturned.
I don't think it is fair to say that older people "skew" the results of such polls, yet it is undeniable that much of the consolidation of the acceptance of social shifts comes from the actual death of older people who will never fully accept those.
That is certainly a factor - but if we look at the rate of change of views on same-sex marriage in dozens upon dozens of countries, it's clear that as well as that there really are very large numbers of people, hundreds of millions globally and rising, who have genuinely had a change of heart on the subject.
Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
Any progress since the 1980's seems largely a matter of inertia and population replacement.
Looking at opinion polling results suggests otherwise.
Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
How does it do that?
What is it about "it may not have been you,' that you don't understand?
“Whatever their bodies do affects their souls. It is funny how mortals always picture us as putting things into their minds: in reality our best work is done by keeping things out...”
― C.S. Lewis, The Screwtape Letters
By making clear the huge numbers of people changing their opinions on things. That's not just inertia and population replacement, that's ongoing changing of views. This is the case in the West, but in particular in countries in Latin America and East Asia in particular.
Advances in LGBT+ rights in Nepal and Taiwan, for example, have been pretty amazing. Not to mention most of Latin America. Really, it's only in the 21st Century that LGBT+ rights have entered the mainstream worldwide.