What is an anti-semite?

[Vendetta]

Before some of our jewish friends call the Anti-Defamation league please read the following (by the way I hate wikipedia but use it because of social conformity:

semite

Now in looking at the history of denotes and semitic languages my question is why are popular jewish groups such as the anti-defamation league monopolize the term when Arabs, Africans, and other middle eastern groups are also of the semitic umbrella.

I hope some of my Muslims of Arab descent can shed some light on this subject.

 

[Caladan]

For the most part, today.
Antisemitism is confined to north American members trolling and obsessing Jewish members on forums. with irrelevant questions.
as antisemitism, the relevant one has been outlawed in various important nations.
and as the antisemites have been defeated militarily.
What we have today. are trolls confined to their apartment. with much time on their hands. and no reading comprehension or ability to understand political and current events.
A mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. too weird to live, and too rare to die. and too afraid to go outside and confront the Jew face to face.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

Anti-semitic

Chose your own definition.
Like all words its meaning has changed over time.
It is now fairly specific to most people.
and well understood in its implications.

 

[Tarheeler]

Marriam Webster defines it as "hostility toward or discrimination against Jews as a religious, ethnic, or racial group".

Dictionary.com defines it as "a person who discriminates against or is prejudiced or hostile toward Jews".

Cambridge defines it as "having or showing a strong dislike of Jewish people, or treating them in a cruel and unfair way".

Yahoo defines it as "One who discriminates against or who is hostile toward or prejudiced against Jews".


As for why it specifically refers to Jews, you can probably thank the German Wilhelm Marr and his organization - The League of Antisemites - which he found to help stamp out Judaism from Germany.

It was pretty much well established as meaning what it does long before the Anti-Defamation League even came about.

 

[Caladan]

As for why it specifically refers to Jews, you can probably thank the German Wilhelm Marr and his organization - The League of Antisemites - which he found to help stamp out Judaism from Germany.

It was pretty much well established as meaning what it does long before the Anti-Defamation League even came about.

I applaud you for bringing this piece of historical paragraph. as I did not even bother. as reviosnists rarely have the guts or ability to confront the historical facts or details. while the historian, or a person with a true sense to history would fish out the correct historical context, and slam it in the face of ignorance.

 

[Vendetta]

For the most part, today.
Antisemitism is confined to north American members trolling and obsessing Jewish members on forums. with irrelevant questions.
as antisemitism, the relevant one has been outlawed in various important nations.
and as the antisemites have been defeated militarily.
What we have today. are trolls confined to their apartment. with much time on their hands. and no reading comprehension or ability to understand political and current events.
A mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. too weird to live, and too rare to die. and too afraid to go outside and confront the Jew face to face.

Hmmm. Well actually this was a legitimate question because I noticed on political shows such as CNN and other politically motivated websites that whenever an actor or high ranking member of a cabinet or business makes a comment that is "anti-semitic" it is claimed to be against someone of jewish descent.

Now unlike others my time in this forum is not to discuss redundant issues such as the existence of God, was Jesus God, or are the scriptures the word of God. I am free to discuss whatever subject so long as its appropriate. As you can see I am involved in several threads and engaged in the appropriate subject heading as well.

Now talking about a Jew face to face.....

If you are referring to my manhood and challenging it I gladly invite to the Coronado Naval Amphibious Base to show me exactly what you mean.

 

[Vendetta]

Anti-semitic

Chose your own definition.
Like all words its meaning has changed over time.
It is now fairly specific to most people.
and well understood in its implications.

I am not comfortable in choosing my own definition since truth and.defined words can be.misconstrued inappropriately. For example in post 9/11 Indians from India who are Sikhs not Muslim, were called "towel heads" yet the term anti-semitic is not acknowledged so I am trying to understand when one makes an anti-semitic comment is it referenced to only a semitic group or all or does the term have to be a common pejorative term for a specific group of people?

 

[Vendetta]

Marriam Webster defines it as "hostility toward or discrimination against Jews as a religious, ethnic, or racial group".

Dictionary.com defines it as "a person who discriminates against or is prejudiced or hostile toward Jews".

Cambridge defines it as "having or showing a strong dislike of Jewish people, or treating them in a cruel and unfair way".

Yahoo defines it as "One who discriminates against or who is hostile toward or prejudiced against Jews".


As for why it specifically refers to Jews, you can probably thank the German Wilhelm Marr and his organization - The League of Antisemites - which he found to help stamp out Judaism from Germany.

It was pretty much well established as meaning what it does long before the Anti-Defamation League even came about.

I see....well my question is, if an Arab is called a pejorative term by a high ranking member, isn't that too anti-semitic since, according to the.link I provided Arabs are of the semitic people since they are.descendants of phonecians.

 

[Tarheeler]

I see....well my question is, if an Arab is called a pejorative term by a high ranking member, isn't that too anti-semitic since, according to the.link I provided Arabs are of the semitic people since they are.descendants of phonecians.

And, according to all the definitions I provided, the answer would be probably not.

All because some bigoted German decided that his idea that Jews should be either killed or forcefully removed from Germany was best described as anti-Semitic.

 

[Vendetta]

And, according to all the definitions I provided, the answer would be probably not.

All because some bigoted German decided that his idea that Jews should be either killed or forcefully removed from Germany was best described as anti-Semitic.

I see so that is the sole reason? Hmmm could you provide some supplimental links that support this view? Also the German group you mentioned does it still exist today?

 

[Tarheeler]

I see so that is the sole reason? Hmmm could you provide some supplimental links that support this view? Also the German group you mentioned does it still exist today?

Yes, that would be the sole reason. Because the world at large accepts it to mean that.
I don't really know what kind of "supplemental" links you're looking for. Several dictionary definitions all saying the same thing pretty much establishes what the term means. A quick search should give you as much information as you want on the subject.

What you seem to be missing is that, thanks to Marr and those who thought like him, Semite stopped referring to race and began to refer to religion, specifically Judaism. Prior to the 19th century, your assessment in the OP would probably have been fairly correct.

If you can figure out a way to reverse what the bigots of the 1800's accomplished, I wish you luck.

And I doubt the group is still around. Its principles were adopted by the Nazi Party, and we all know what happened with that.

 

[Oneatatime]

I think this is a term that should be applied carefully because sometimes its used as a means of detering any criticism or limitation on Judaism or related politics. There are going to be genuine instances where a Jew or Jewish political body is subject to discimination or criticism solely on the basis that they are Jewish but there are also times when the criticism has nothing to do with them being Jewish or the actions of a Jewish political body such as Israel as genuinly reprehensible.

The religious discimination card is often played when a religious persons belief which impinge on others is challenged.

 

[TJ73]

I don't know where the OP is from, but speaking as an American I can hardly understand someone not being accustomed to anti-Semite in reference to Jewish people. Yeah many people know the Semitic peoples are a much broader group than that, the phrase has been accepted as having Jewish connotation for a long time.
It reminds me of people in the US saying stupid crap like" well, there are black ni**ers and white ni**ers, Ni**ger just means bad person" BS! Ni**er means ni**ger, it's doesn't have anything to do with people of other races and it never will. Anti-Semite is gonna stay as it is currently, referring to people against Jewish people.

 

[Caladan]

Hmmm. Well actually this was a legitimate question because I noticed on political shows such as CNN and other politically motivated websites that whenever an actor or high ranking member of a cabinet or business makes a comment that is "anti-semitic" it is claimed to be against someone of jewish descent.

Clearly. you have not read two posts on the first page. nor do you know the true origin of the term. you are trying to reinvent and redefine a term which has been in existence since the 19th century. and specifically originated in Germany and involved Jews. not Arabs, Muslims, or Han Chinese. which were not present as a considerable community or social sector of the German community.

Now unlike others my time in this forum is not to discuss redundant issues such as the existence of God, was Jesus God, or are the scriptures the word of God. I am free to discuss whatever subject so long as its appropriate. As you can see I am involved in several threads and engaged in the appropriate subject heading as well.

Yes we understand. you are here to discuss other redundant ideas.

Now talking about a Jew face to face.....

If you are referring to my manhood and challenging it I gladly invite to the Coronado Naval Amphibious Base to show me exactly what you mean.

As you've already admitted of being washed out of hell week. I wouldn't even bother. unless I am offered a nice and decent contract, to give you a second attempt.
considering I've survived 2 months of the Israeli version of your Hell week.

 

[Rainbow Mage]

Anti-semite- Anyone who dares to challenge Jewish religion or Zionism. Doesn't matter if you're Jewish or not

 

[Caladan]

Anti-semite- Anyone who dares to challenge Jewish religion or Zionism. Doesn't matter if you're Jewish or not

Well. actually I love that you said that. it means that people who think they can challenge Judaism or Zionism are on regular defence, and have an urgent sense of persecution.

 

[Rainbow Mage]

See I really I think that anti-semite is an overused, over-abused term that really holds very little meaning anymore because Jews appeal to it so much. Especially when Jews call other Jews anti-semites because they won't support a Zionist, Atheist state of Israel. It's downright silly.

 

[Caladan]

See I really I think that anti-semite is an overused, over-abused term that really holds very little meaning anymore because Jews appeal to it so much.

And yet people bring it up again and again. and people like you cannot contain themselves but spill their beans arguing it again and again. evidently you yourself are overusing it on regular basis.

Especially when Jews call other Jews anti-semites because they won't support a Zionist, Atheist state of Israel. It's downright silly.

Who cares. so they call you an anti-smite. even some of my best friends in the university call me an anti-semite regularly because I have fierce criticism of my nation.
Yet you people feel so persecuted by a mere power of a term and a word.

 

[Levite]

Before some of our jewish friends call the Anti-Defamation league please read the following (by the way I hate wikipedia but use it because of social conformity:

semite

Now in looking at the history of denotes and semitic languages my question is why are popular jewish groups such as the anti-defamation league monopolize the term when Arabs, Africans, and other middle eastern groups are also of the semitic umbrella.

I hope some of my Muslims of Arab descent can shed some light on this subject.

The term "anti-Semite" to refer to someone who hates, dislikes, or discriminates against Jews is actually a colloquialism. It stems from a time when English speakers encountered Jews more frequently than they did Arabs, Bedouins, or the various North African Semitic peoples. The term became firmly associated with discrimination against Jews in the 19th Century, when pseudoscientific racialist bigots produced a large volume of hate material that was all gussied up for the genteel, drawing-room Jew-haters of the upper crust, and used the term "Semites" as a more scientific-sounding euphemism for "Jews."

It is actually quite ironic that today, we can speak of anti-Semitism coming from certain groups in the Arab world, which technically are all made up of Semitic people. But the usage in the English language just stuck, and so far there hasn't been much momentum in efforts to change the terminology to better reflect the phenomena it's attempting to describe.

 

[Vendetta]

Clearly. you have not read two posts on the first page. nor do you know the true origin of the term. you are trying to reinvent and redefine a term which has been in existence since the 19th century. and specifically originated in Germany and involved Jews. not Arabs, Muslims, or Han Chinese. which were not present as a considerable community or social sector of the German community.


Yes we understand. you are here to discuss other redundant ideas.


As you've already admitted of being washed out of hell week. I wouldn't even bother. unless I am offered a nice and decent contract, to give you a second attempt.
considering I've survived 2 months of the Israeli version of your Hell week.

So I am supposed to go by just the dictionary? I did read clearly and although the statement was informative, I am encouraging others to give their perspectives. Because, unlike you, everyone doesn't just have a narrow point of view.

As far as me being "washed up" that was laughable. I hardly think IDF or even the infamous "isayeret" has a rigorous training as BUD/S or SAS (where people actually die). Being injured is not washed up its called bad luck. As far as my offer its ok to show cowardice you do your military proud.