By this I mean, what does the Bible say faith is, and what it entails?
Faith is belief that comes from hearing or reading the testimony of others. I have never seen Paris, New York City, or Beijing, but I have faith that they exist because I have read about them from reliable sources. Faith is also, more broadly, the foundation of our hope as Christians. Because of our belief in the testimony of those long past, written for us in the Bible, we have hope and look forward to the fulfillment of its promises. (Heb. 11:1, paraphrased)
Hebrews 11 gives us a picture of what faithful men did because of their faith.
By faith, Abel offered a more excellent sacrifice than Cain.
By faith, Noah prepared the ark.
By faith, Abraham went left home without knowing where he was going, dwelt there as a foreigner, sacrificed his son.
So, Biblical faith is faith which causes obedience to God.
James 2:14-26 says, "What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can faith save him? If a brother or sister is naked and destitute of daily food, and one of you says to them, 'Depart in peace, be warmed and filled,' but you do not give them the things which are needed for the body, what does it profit? Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.
But someone will say, 'You have faith, and I have works.' Show me your faith without your works, and I will show you my faith by my works. You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believe—and tremble! But do you want to know, O foolish man, that faith without works is dead? Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered Isaac his son on the altar? Do you see that faith was working together with his works, and by works faith was made perfect? And the Scripture was fulfilled which says, 'Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.' And he was called the friend of God. You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only.
Likewise, was not Rahab the harlot also justified by works when she received the messengers and sent them out another way?
For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also."
So what do we learn by these passages about faith? We must believe, we must obey, and we must do good works, all to have a faith that saves us. Notice that belief is not enough. No one professing to be a Christian believes that the demons are saved, but even they believe that Jesus is the Son of God! Many say this is enough to save someone, but this passage directly refutes that!
Faith and obedience are inextricably linked. But so many say that only faith is required. Should we believe God or men? Must we obey as well as believe to be saved from our sins?
Urging us to do good works is a sign that you are a very good person. I warmly welcome you to the Religious Forum. I see some possible flaws in your reasoning, so I would like to discuss them. Maybe together we could find a truer path?
IS READING BELIEVING? According to Spock, and other Vulcans, might believe that reading is believing. Of course, we all have faith that Spock is correct because we can
read Spock's other words in sci-fi books, and see Spock on TV shows and movies, and we can see that other members of the United Federation of Planets believe Spock to be of good character. Furthermore, Spock, who is of half human and half Vulcan parentage, has chosen to follow his Vulcan side...a side of logic and truth.
Should we believe in Spock because we can read about him? Should we believe everything that we read on the internet? Should I buy a bridge in Brooklyn?
The
bible was written some time (within a hundred years) of the death of Jesus. While it is vaguely possible that some
apostles were still alive, it is likely that they didn't spend the time helping some
unknown person write the bible. The bible has been
altered by kings and popes since then. The bible has been
translated and in many cases incorrectly translated. The bible has inherent
contradictions (for example: Genesis 1:25 and Genesis 2:18 contradict each other about whether animals or man was created first). There are
numerous religions around the world, and even within the same religion (example: Christianity) there are
various versions of the bible and all versions are not the same). Even within Christianity, Catholics believe in the
trinity, and many other Christians do not. Much of the
bible must be interpreted, and there are many different interpretations.
I know that Christianity is a spin-off of Judaism, so Christians also follow the Old Testament (example: ten commandments). But, how can you quote the old testament while simultaneously maintaining that Christianity is correct (implying that Judaism is incorrect for not accepting Jesus as the prophecized Messiah)?
God asked
Abraham to sacrifice his son (Isaac), watched as Abraham prepared to do it, then told him that it was not necessary. Some view this as a test of loyalty to God. I view it as a
test of morality. One
can't get into heaven by hurting someone else so they can get into paradise forever. If heaven was filled with people like that, it would be hell. You wrote that Abraham sacrificed his son. He did not....but he prepared to do so.
Apostle James: "What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works?
All those who studied the bible
knows "thou shalt not kill" yet, they continue going to church and many are fine with wars and torture camps. This openly defies God.
Mafia members go to Catholic churches devoutly, yet continue to murder, extort, sell, and do other immoral acts. They feel that they will be forgiven. They have faith, but not works.
"show you my faith by my works." The TV miniseries, Roots, showed that Kunta Kinte's master was too busy reading the bible to talk to him while he was being beaten into accepting the name Toby. That is an example of someone who knows a lot about the bible, and someone seeking more knowledge about the bible, but someone who has not chosen to following the teachings of the bible. We must not only know, we must also practice what we know.
I
f you go to a Black church, watch them sing Gospel music, and see them react to the words and music, you will see what true faith is about. You will see that after their ancestors have been enslaved, beaten, and debased by their Christian captors, they have not turned away from Christianity, but have embraced it, and exceeded their former master's command of the religion.
"Biblical faith is faith which causes obedience to God." So, Revelation said not to attack Iraq or face God's wrath (example: Revelation 15: seven plagues). The ten commandments said "thou shalt not kill." When the 911 attack happened, we should not have been guided by Satan's fear of future terrorist attacks, we should have obeyed God and turned the other cheek and not killed. We should have had the faith that God would take care of the terrorists in his own way.
If someone is faithful, can they
jump off of a tall building and be saved by God? Stand in the middle of a busy freeway? Eat
poisoned Kool Aid (Jonestown)? Eat poison to have their souls ride around the solar system on the Hale-Bopp comet (Reverend Applewhite's Heaven's Gate cult)?
To what extent are our actions governed by fear and to what extent are our actions governed by faith, and to what extent are our actions governed by common sense?
Who gets into heaven....theist without works or atheist with works?
Satan believes that there is a God, but doesn't tremble. Why not? Why doesn't God destroy hell and Satan? Could it be that God sees the future, and knows that, in his misguided way, Satan is doing God's work? Imagine how horrible it must feel to be in hell for all eternity, burning in the fires. If suddenly God offered them a reprieve if they would repent, it might be that all of hell would repent and become good, if they had a chance for eternal bliss in heaven?
So, maybe it is God's plan to roast souls for a long time, only to redeem them in the end?