Muslim Atheism
Matheist
I understand free will is about to align ourselves with the system of nature . . other ideas?
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What is free will?
- Thread starter Muslim Atheism
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I'm not sure what you mean. As far as I know, free will springs from a recognition of a "me" distinct and separate from nature.
Muslim Atheism
Matheist
That's also my general understanding, but then I realize the whole system has its own system and with no options to divert from its course. . .except human beings. That's makes me think who decide it is as "free will", whether it is "us" or the "whole system" itself.
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Muslim Atheism
Matheist
another example, our own bodies. . we cannot stop our heart beats or breathing, sweating, dreaming and all the things that is natural for any human beings. . perhaps, that is the true nature of free will.
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Muslim Atheism
Matheist
I just refer to wikipedia and found this. . .
People can be brainwashed etc and how to define define the concept of free will ?
Though it is a commonly-held intuition that we have free will, it has been widely debated throughout history not only whether that is true, but even how to define the concept of free will. How exactly must the will be free, what exactly must the will be free from, in order for us to have free will?
People can be brainwashed etc and how to define define the concept of free will ?
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Muslim Atheism
Matheist
Me too, I believe in truth. . and that's where the idea to align ourselves with nature as truth, and as the platform for the concept of free will.
Influence by others : There is no free will
According to nature : Free will
Influence by others : There is no free will
According to nature : Free will
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Muslim Atheism
Matheist
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I believe in truth, but certainly not in Free Will - which, by the way, is indeed a very poorly defined concept.
Far as I can tell, it is just a psychological need to feel that we have choices even when we do not. And it has been raised into a sacred right by those who felt the need to have such an attempt at an explanation for why the world is not perfect if God is all powerful and wants it to be perfect.
Far as I can tell, it is just a psychological need to feel that we have choices even when we do not. And it has been raised into a sacred right by those who felt the need to have such an attempt at an explanation for why the world is not perfect if God is all powerful and wants it to be perfect.
Muslim Atheism
Matheist
What is the Buddhism explanation about free will ?
I don't think we use the concept, at least by that name.
If anything, it is denied by the concepts of Anatta and Interdependent Origination.
You might find somethin akin to Free Will in some schools of Hinduism, I think, but I can hardly claim to know for certain. They do have a "soul" concept of sorts, the Atman.
Muslim Atheism
Matheist
I can't remember but I did read somewhere about "dependant origination" in Buddhism . . quite long time ago.
Skwim
Veteran Member
Yup, Sin/salvation would be meaningless without it, which is why Christians have such a vested interest in it. It H A S T O exist.
Free will is when you decide something with your mind, without being influenced by anyone or anything
for example, if a person slaps you, you can decide with your own freewill how to react.
You can decide not to slap them back. And if you do, you use your free will
for example, if a person slaps you, you can decide with your own freewill how to react.
You can decide not to slap them back. And if you do, you use your free will
Gjallarhorn
N'yog-Sothep
Free will is two things: a lie and a delusion, which depends on whether you're a compatibilist or not.
Muslim Atheism
Matheist
Thanks for the link . . very interesting.