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What is God?

Brickjectivity

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Many people (including me) speak about God.

But do people actually have a clue what a God truly are and what a God can do?
Honestly I don't believe i can truly answer this question my self. I would have to point to what scriptures say, but those aren't my own true understandings.
Your comment leans towards apophatic theological positions. It is an approach to studying what God is. Apophatic means you make statements about what cannot be known about God. The opposite is the cataphatic. When you make assertions about God you are making cataphatic statements. For example "God must be spelled with a capital G or God will be offended" is a cataphatic assertion. The apophetic retort is "We don't know that God would care about the case of the letter g."
 

Jimmy

King Phenomenon
Quite true. And every person who makes a claim to "know" about God must be required to explain, first, what she knows, and second, how she knows.

Good for you -- I do the same. I find that taking care of our health, our nutrition, keeping up with our vaccinations, not smoking or sky-diving, wearing a mask in crowded places, all go a long way towards answering my hope.
i dont have to explain how i know. that doesnt make sense really. for me you either know or dont. youre enlightened or youre not. no biggy really.

yup healthy diet no smokin etc
 

Exaltist Ethan

Bridging the Gap Between Believers and Skeptics
I don't take medication for anything, but I do have quite a good idea what I'm saying.

Sounds like you are trying to use the argument that because I take medication I must be crazy. In fact, when I don't take medication guess what happens? I lose part of my affect and intuitive thinking and I become an atheist. I don't think about these things as much when I'm unmedicated because I'm focused on, well, sex, frankly. And it gets me into trouble.

Don't you understand? We have to create our paradise first, which we probably both agree, but then everything will be exalted. This is why I removed the term "time" from my original post, because if God existed in all times there wouldn't be the distinction I make right now and free will would not exist.

This is the syntheist argument. But instead of calling it atheism first I usually prefer pantheism because pantheism implies that reality could exist one day similar to omnitheism or omnism.
 

Sand Dancer

Currently catless
Many people (including me) speak about God.

But do people actually have a clue what a God truly are and what a God can do?
Honestly I don't believe i can truly answer this question my self. I would have to point to what scriptures say, but those aren't my own true understandings.

God is the whole universe. The sun, earth, air, fire, water provide us with what we need. We have other people to give us love.
 

Link

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Many people (including me) speak about God.

But do people actually have a clue what a God truly are and what a God can do?
Honestly I don't believe i can truly answer this question my self. I would have to point to what scriptures say, but those aren't my own true understandings.

Salam

God is balanced and puts every emotion in the proper place. We mostly are unbalanced. Some people over-emphasize one way or the other. The same Lord who is Forgiving Merciful is the same Lord who is severe in punishment.

Most people accept Surah Fatiha up to verse 1:7.

The issue that God channels his favor to mankind through certain souls, some people have a problem. They say why God favored some people above others and speaks to them and not others and that everyone has to follow them? Some people do not, but then, have a problem accepting the line that there exists people who God's wrath is upon and that we can go astray off the path and must return.

Some people do not accept there are deviations and say all paths lead to God. Some people accept deviations but do not accept that God wrath is upon certain people.

And some people accept all the verses of Fatiha but do not accept the reasoning Quran offers to each of them and detailed elaboration. They will make their own definitions each of these.

They have their own philosophy on how God will deal with his wrath and those who his wrath is upon for example.
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
i dont have to explain how i know. that doesnt make sense really. for me you either know or dont. youre enlightened or youre not. no biggy really.
I find that fascinating -- and a little strange. You just "know or don't?" Is that like a highschool student -- she either knows algebra or she doesn't, or should she be required to learn the thing then take a test that proves she did?

You get to be "enlightened" because you say you are? Does that work for being rich, or 89 feet tall?

Really, I suspect the moon may be the best place for you -- it's still a bit unreal to the rest of us down here.
 

Jimmy

King Phenomenon
I find that fascinating -- and a little strange. You just "know or don't?" Is that like a highschool student -- she either knows algebra or she doesn't, or should she be required to learn the thing then take a test that proves she did?

You get to be "enlightened" because you say you are? Does that work for being rich, or 89 feet tall?

Really, I suspect the moon may be the best place for you -- it's still a bit unreal to the rest of us down here.
its all good
 

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
As you know I am an atheist. I will talk about what theist Hindus think about Gods/Goddesses (I am qualified to do that since for half my life I was a theist). Gods and Goddesses are immortals, they have their families, sometimes the children also are Gods - example, Ganesha and Kartikeya/Murugan, brothers, off springs of Shiva an Parvati. Yama, the God of Death, and Shani (Saturn) are considered sons of the Sun God. In Hinduism they are never vindictive and have the best qualities. They do not care about who worships them and who does not, but respond if anyone asks for help. They do not pass judgment on deeds of humans. That is left to Yama and Shani, Shani while the person is alive and Yama when the person is dead. The judgment is very secular. It is the same for Hindus as for people from any other culture or religion worshiping different Gods and depends solely on one's deeds.
I would be happy to answer if anyone has questions on this.
 
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rational experiences

Veteran Member
Humans self logic. Whose want is natural life on earth.....meaning it's not a want. It's a right.

Said to the just a human theist brothers minds that changed. By burning fallen star. Science your human only theories about the past....looking back. All lies.

As humans use and understood earths natural products. Minerals and herbal remedies.

As everything we ever owned .....mass supplied it. Abundance.

So we said natural...heavens. Huge natural mass. The earth a huge natural mass. It's own two types of bodies. Mass but different.

Mass the entity God that supplied our safety protection. Supported natural life.

The God mass itself.

So when he hurt us by fallout constant science activated.... the presence of natural mass by its terms natural kept us alive saved us. Science changed the heavens hurt us all. Known.

Yet we were just by terms a changed life. Bio health changed.

So we knew energy in reacting mass bodies could hurt life. Change both mind and body. And mass kept us alive supported to live on and suffering.

Earth hence in its two mass bodies kept us safe from the evil sun star energy.
Known. Exact reasons for evil man thinking.

As he owned his biology and his human brain mind spiritually first.

It was taught gods bodies saved us. Just by being naturally present. Supportive. Assisting by its mass conditions ...conditions human science had never owned.

Why ice newly returned reborn end of each year was the win. Winter. We said maintained earth life stability. The cross of four sea of son. Explained reality.

New balances. As once just clear gas versus burning light gas was the balance. Changed by ice body.

Stable.

For biology human and beast life. Modern natural life the only truth. Acceptance.

We were grateful.

We knew our want wasn't. Want of natural was first present. Needed. We wanted it to return.

We had to demand we wanted it as our changed brain brother wanted greed power riches and family slavery.

His every answer is murder or destruction in his behaviours about family life interaction. As his owned nasty self proof.

Our lifes story.

So when a scientist asks. A Natural human.... where's God? As a human we already told you.

Mass was God.

Science a liar said mass was energy.

Yet spirit cold a gas was never ever energy.

Hot burning spirit gas science uses as energetic causes.

The list about God. The human scientist. Who lied.

The same human we are.

The human who began by his mind changed causes to have sex with his brother. Who said I feel and think I'm a woman in the wrong body.

Who then claimed he was ice the saviour. The wandering star mass saviour. The God of cold gases saviour. Whose natural bodies are scientific speeches by descriptive human terms only.

No they aren't says logic. They just exist naturally and science a human first does not own any reason why they exist.

Who said I saved you. As a father human man by human sex to gain a baby. Mind displaced by scientific causes.

Yet the truth. The vacuum void space womb took down the burning gas sacrificed body leaving the rock entombed earth. As sin holes...sink hole. Emptying out mass.

So now you should realise the self possessed maths science brother being mind changed and self possessed.

As he wasn't any God term.
He wasn't the womb vacuum mother term...his thesis saving life of biology by stopping burning gases.

He was a man who thought he was a woman in one life. And he recanted his old mans human only stated scientific thesis falsely. Mind changed.

A true story. A story pre known. The humans warning. Causes. Fakery.

So mass is God. Energy is only when a scientists burns sacrificed the dead body again.

As the theist said once O gods were in the eternal form. Burst burnt fell into hell. Was then cooled and held entombed as the deceased eternal spirit. In a dead cold earth.

So today you should realise when science said it raised the dead spirit in mass as God. It was a thesis about earth mass conversion only.

Not a human.
.....never was a human.

It was science thesis fakery only. Incorrect stories by themes.

So a man human didn't do what he claimed he had.

Gods natural mass bodies by his scientific only stories had saved us.

Yet he proves he had become self possessed and idolised himself in mans scientific thesis.

Once that truth was written and known exactly why it was said...so don't self idolise.

As those teachers by verbal reading only. Today....no longer mind existed to teach it as it had been known and taught. As I'm hearing my brother's real version of wisdom.

Not how it was then interpreted in the dark ages of humans mind fall.
 

The Sum of Awe

Brought to you by the moment that spacetime began.
Staff member
Premium Member
Many people (including me) speak about God.

But do people actually have a clue what a God truly are and what a God can do?
Honestly I don't believe i can truly answer this question my self. I would have to point to what scriptures say, but those aren't my own true understandings.
God is the only thing that exists.
 

robocop (actually)

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Many people (including me) speak about God.

But do people actually have a clue what a God truly are and what a God can do?
Honestly I don't believe i can truly answer this question my self. I would have to point to what scriptures say, but those aren't my own true understandings.
There are many things to think about with the all-whatever-things.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
Your comment leans towards apophatic theological positions. It is an approach to studying what God is. Apophatic means you make statements about what cannot be known about God. The opposite is the cataphatic. When you make assertions about God you are making cataphatic statements. For example "God must be spelled with a capital G or God will be offended" is a cataphatic assertion. The apophetic retort is "We don't know that God would care about the case of the letter g."
I do not understand your reply?
As said in the OP, I do not hold a good answer to the question in OP. Meaning i do not think I know the right answer.
 

blü 2

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Many people (including me) speak about God.

But do people actually have a clue what a God truly are and what a God can do?
Honestly I don't believe i can truly answer this question my self. I would have to point to what scriptures say, but those aren't my own true understandings.
As far as I can tell, "God" is the name of an idea generated from the way human brains function.

I have asked repeatedly for the definition of a real God, such that if we found a real suspect we could determine whether it was God or not. So far no one has offered such a definition.

It seems plain to me that this is because God is not thought of as "real" ie having objective existence, being found in nature, the world external to the self. Thus the only way God is known to exist is as a concept or thing imagined in an individual brain.

That's why there are simultaneously so many different gods and so many different versions of God ─ none of them can be held to any objective standard of truth. So however many people, at least that many versions of the concept of 'god' or 'God'.

As for the way the human brain functions, each of us constantly, automatically, instinctively constructs for our self an explanation for something lacking an explanation, and it can be amended or abandoned as soon as better information is to hand. But in the past, humans haven't had science to fill in the blanks ─ what is thunder, why is drought, plague, famine, war, whence comes good or bad luck in hunting, gathering, fishing, battle, love, what is the meaning of death, how can dreams be explained, does that comet, meteor, eclipse serve as a warning, and if so, about what?

Whence the idea of supernatural beings, their good and bad purposes, their association with weather, war, wisdom, childbirth, medicine, mischief and so on.

And at the same time, religion is part of tribal solidarity and identify ─ having in common the same language, customs, stories, folk history, and religious practices and attitudes to the great variety of supernatural beings supposed to be out there.
 

RestlessSoul

Well-Known Member
I believe any one of us can experience a spiritual awakening, and come to know and to feel the presence of our Creator; all that is required to make our beginning is willingness, honesty and open mindedness.

Sadly, few people seem to have these qualities in sufficient measure to silence the ego, and connect with the God consciousness within; it seems we will not begin to know God until our pride is defeated, which may never occur until we are forced to admit complete defeat in some area of our lives. Then we may receive the Gift of Desperation, freely given to we who, brought to our knees by knowledge of our own weakness, finally have the humility to surrender.
 

loverofhumanity

We are all the leaves of one tree
Premium Member
Many people (including me) speak about God.

But do people actually have a clue what a God truly are and what a God can do?
Honestly I don't believe i can truly answer this question my self. I would have to point to what scriptures say, but those aren't my own true understandings.

Hi Seeker. That’s true. None of us, believer or non believer know God. We only hear about God through the Manifestations Who tell us about His attributes such as love, justice, compassion and many others. Even the Prophets don’t know, only that He IS and some of His attributes are scattered throughout the sacred scriptures of the major religions.
 

Colt

Well-Known Member
Many people (including me) speak about God.

But do people actually have a clue what a God truly are and what a God can do?
Honestly I don't believe i can truly answer this question my self. I would have to point to what scriptures say, but those aren't my own true understandings.
“God is the first truth and the last fact; therefore does all truth take origin in him, while all facts exist relative to him.” UB 1955

IMOP
 

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
Not even the bible tries to describe or explain what God is.
which is itself rather strange as it is pretty dogmatic about most things.

However Christians then think that they can define and explain the "Trinity" ( another thing that the Bible does not address.)
This is not only strange, it is clearly impossible to do, when you have no Idea how to explain any of the components or their functional relationships.
 

Dawnofhope

Non-Proselytizing Baha'i
Staff member
Premium Member
Many people (including me) speak about God.

But do people actually have a clue what a God truly are and what a God can do?
Honestly I don't believe i can truly answer this question my self. I would have to point to what scriptures say, but those aren't my own true understandings.

From a Baha'i perspective, God is an unknowable essence. On a personal level, I feel better that I don't really understand or know God. Knowing God is unknowable tends to make me cynical about the claims of those who state they know God. I tend to place more emphasis on the recognised Prophets of God for my understanding realising my own knowledge and those around me is limited.
 

Colt

Well-Known Member
That goes nowhere towards defining what God is.
It encompasses the totality of the fact of the I AM. We fill in the parenthesis with our experience with the infinite God which will last into all eternity for those who survive. Many definitions could be given but those are only understood by experiencing God. God is Love, God is spirit, God is truth etc.
 
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