PearlSeeker
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If Earth is important then millions of planets that didn't become life bearers are also important because there isn't one without the other.Totally irrelevant to my point.
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If Earth is important then millions of planets that didn't become life bearers are also important because there isn't one without the other.Totally irrelevant to my point.
Baha'u'llah wrote that there are other worlds that have life on them. That is one reason why God is called the Lord of all worlds.If Earth is important then millions of planets that didn't become life bearers are also important because there isn't one without the other.
I was replying to someone who said that God's priority was MAN.If Earth is important then millions of planets that didn't become life bearers are also important because there isn't one without the other.
Hopefully.I wonder though if God created life in other planets, has he given them a different Genesis to study/follow?
Why ? Why Not agree because the Bible is chock full of corresponding or parallel verses and passages.From the Amplified Bible, Classic Edition:
2 Timothy 3:16 Every Scripture is God-breathed (given by His inspiration) and profitable for instruction, for reproof and conviction of sin, for correction of error and discipline in obedience, [and] for training in righteousness (in holy living, in conformity to God’s will in thought, purpose, and action),
17 So that the man of God may be complete and proficient, well fitted and thoroughly equipped for every good work.
You do learn something from the Bible, and it does help us to be righteous, but I don't agree that Bible writers were God's secretaries. I don't agree with this scripture either that every scripture in the Bible.is given by inspiration.
Adam and Eve were the first.I was replying to someone who said that God's priority was MAN.
Glad to see you agreeing that all billions upon billions of planets (whether they are life bearers or not) are his priority too.
I wonder though if God created life in other planets, has he given them a different Genesis to study/follow?
I find Jesus gave priority to God's name (YHWH) as the highest priority ( Hallowed be thy name....... )
Genesis 2:17 is the standard for all planets...........................I wonder though if God created life in other planets, has he given them a different Genesis to study/follow?
Are you still believing in Adam and Eve? And that the world is 7-6000 years old? Speaking snakes and donkeys too?Adam and Eve were the first.
In other words, there will Not be intelligent life on other planets until the 'sin issue' is settled here on Earth.
This way Earth will set the precedent for life elsewhere.
There would be No reason to settle the sin issue ever again once it is settled here.
Right...Genesis 2:17 is the standard for all planets.
By breaking God's Law in effect Adam took the Law out of God's hands and put the Law into man's hands.
Adam set up People Rule as being superior to God Rule.
Only the passing of time would settle that issue.
The passing of time has also allowed for us to be born and think who we would like as sovereign over us.
Once the 'sin issue' that started with Adam is settled here on Earth then there could be intelligent life on other planets.
There would be No need to repeat that again because Earth will stand as a model, a precedent for all the universe.
Matthew 24
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
The Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory is not referring to Jesus.
Who is the Son of man who will come in the clouds of heaven?
Son of man coming in the clouds means that the return of Christ will appear in the form of another human being. The term “clouds” as used in the Bible means those things that are contrary to the ways and desires of men. Just like the physical clouds prevent the eyes of men from beholding the sun, these things hindered men from recognizing the return of Christ.
In other words, the judgment of most people was clouded when Christ returned and it is still clouded for most people.
One thing that clouds the judgment of Christians is their desire for the same Jesus to return to earth.
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Luke 19:15 And it came to pass, that when he was returned, having received the kingdom, then he commanded these servants to be called unto him, to whom he had given the money, that he might know how much every man had gained by trading.
This chapter is about Jesus when He was alive on earth 2000 years ago. It has nothing to do with the return of Jesus to this earth.
That is why the chapter begins:
Luke 19:1 And Jesus entered and passed through Jericho.
Yet again you don't understand the importance of true christianity and who Christ Jesus really isWhy the hell would it matter if Jesus rose from the grave physically? It makes no difference whatsoever to anyone's salvation! NONE.
The cross sacrifice is what conferred salvation on humanity. As soon as Jesus died on the cross His work was finished on earth.
What jesus clearly meant was that the work ( the Only means by which salvation was provided for all mankind and He Alone accomplished and satisfied God's demand of judgement for our sins) THAT IS WHAT IS FINISHED, NOTJesus Christ!, nor his work on this earth and certainly not the PERFECT KINGDOM Jesus will set up at the Last TRUMPET. THE New Jerusalem on this earth that he alone will rule as KING OF KINGS and LORD OF LORDS! FOR There is no other messiah, King, Lord, messiah, OTHER THAN JESUS CHRIST nor any other Kingdom other than what Jesus Christ establishes.John 19:30 When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.
Christians have their priorities all messed up, thinking the bodily resurrection of Jesus matters. It doesn't matter one iota.
Only the teachings of Jesus and the cross sacrifice matter.
I do understand what those verses mean. You are the one who doesn't understand what they mean.Yet again you don't understand the importance of true christianity and who Christ Jesus really is
Paul said it most clear
I Corinthians 15:13-18
If there is no resurrection of the dead, then not even Christ has been raised. 14 And if Christ has not been raised, our preaching is worthless, and so is your faith. 15 In that case, we are also exposed as false witnesses about God. For we have testified about God that He raised Christ from the dead, but He did not raise Him if in fact the dead are not raised.…
16 Or if the dead are not raised, then not even Christ has been raised. 17And if Christ has not been raised, your faith is futile; you are still in your sins. 18Then those also who have fallen asleep in Christ have perished.
Dream on. Jesus is not coming back to this earth. I see you have still been unable to respond to the verses below.What jesus clearly meant was that the work ( the Only means by which salvation was provided for all mankind and He Alone accomplished and satisfied God's demand of judgement for our sins) THAT IS WHAT IS FINISHED, NOT Jesus Christ!, nor his work on this earth and certainly not the PERFECT KINGDOM Jesus will set up at the Last TRUMPET. THE New Jerusalem on this earth that he alone will rule as KING OF KINGS and LORD OF LORDS! FOR There is no other messiah, King, Lord, messiah, OTHER THAN JESUS CHRIST nor any other Kingdom other than what Jesus Christ establishes.
The cross what the end of Jesus' work on earth.The Cross was by NO means the end but Entirely only the Beginning. That was just the beginning of the NEW Birth for all who believe in JESUS CHRIST, the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the World.
Jesus Christ is now building his Church (A Body of Believers in Him, where is He ALone is the Head,) He said he is the vine and we are the branches and WE CAN DO NOTHING WITHOUT HIM. This and all truths about the continuing work of Jesus Christ will contiune until he Comes and judges those who reject him.
See the post above for the true meaning of those scriptures.Because as per my last post and according to the scriptures, if Christ Jesus did not rise from the dead neither shall anyone ever!!,
Yes I agree, that is one reason. The other reason is because of the many afterlife worlds.Baha'u'llah wrote that there are other worlds that have life on them. That is one reason why God is called the Lord of all worlds.
“Verily I say, the creation of God embraceth worlds besides this world, and creatures apart from these creatures. In each of these worlds He hath ordained things which none can search except Himself, the All-Searching, the All-Wise. Do thou meditate on that which We have revealed unto thee, that thou mayest discover the purpose of God, thy Lord, and the Lord of all worlds. In these words the mysteries of Divine Wisdom have been treasured.”
Gleanings, pp. 152-153
Do you mean the 'many worlds' that Baha'u'llah promised we would see in the afterlife?Yes I agree, that is one reason. The other reason is because of the many afterlife worlds.
Yes, of course.Do you mean the 'many worlds' that Baha'u'llah promised we would see in the afterlife?
“O My servants! Sorrow not if, in these days and on this earthly plane, things contrary to your wishes have been ordained and manifested by God, for days of blissful joy, of heavenly delight, are assuredly in store for you. Worlds, holy and spiritually glorious, will be unveiled to your eyes. You are destined by Him, in this world and hereafter, to partake of their benefits, to share in their joys, and to obtain a portion of their sustaining grace. To each and every one of them you will, no doubt, attain.”
Gleanings From the Writings of Bahá’u’lláh, p. 329
I sure hope so because I am getting mighty tired of this material world.Yes, of course.
The knowledge found at Genesis 2:17 is Not directed to a baby brain.Are you still believing in Adam and Eve? And that the world is 7-6000 years old? Speaking snakes and donkeys too?
Good for you if you find comfort with these things.
Right...
We don't want any sovereign over us and if we have to, we elect those that we think fit us best.
Furthermore the fairy tale of Genesis has numerous ridiculousness. Two adults with a brain of a baby, without knowledge of good and evil can not break any law. They believe whoever tells them what to do. Additionally the omniscient God who knew very well what would happened in the story, somehow didn't know and accept the fact that two "brainless" persons, could not realize that they committed any crime, let alone the worst crime in human history. And that the Son of God himself had to die for this. But he forgave the people who killed him, because they didn't know what they were doing...
Seems as if healthy people do Not want to pick the day they want to die.I sure hope so because I am getting mighty tired of this material world.