What is Hell?

[It Aint Necessarily So]

The only experience I've had of hell, is the state of Godlessness a human may so easily become entrapped in.

Godlessness has worked for me.

Speaking of entrapment, "To the philosophy of atheism belongs the credit of robbing death of its horror and its terror. It brought about the abolition of Hell." - Joseph Lewis

 

[It Aint Necessarily So]

Can someone at the judgement be tossed into hell from heaven, or vice versa ?

I understand that they have an extradition treaty in effect.

 

[David1967]

Hell is an evolving concept in Christianity. In the Christian bible there is no reference to a fiery hell in the old testament. There is however references to an eventual resurrection in (for example) the book of Job and Daniel. In the New testament we find references to a place of eternal torment in fire. Why? Is a good question. Why was such a bad place not mentioned in the OT? I would think that would have been important to mention. Was its inclusion in NT writings due to interaction with the Greeks who did believe in such a place? I don't know, but I believe that my Jehova's Witness friends here such as Deeje make some good points regarding this subject, and as I have said before, "I hope they are right about this subject" But ....I sure don't want to be there.

 

[Satans_Serrated_Edge]

Hell is Eternal Darkness, Fire And Punishment

Jesus Christ gave a few literal statements about Hell being a place of fire: "The Son of man will send his angels and they will gather out of his kingdom all causes of sin and law-breakers, and throw them into the fiery furnace. In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth." Matthew 13:41-42 "So it will be at the end of the age. The angels will come out and separate the evil from the righteous, and will throw them into the fiery furnace. In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth." Matthew 13:49-50

Jesus also gave a few literal statements about Hell being eternal and a punishment. The same word in the Greek language in which the New Testament was originally written was used in these passages. The word means eternal, everlasting, without end, never to cease. "Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels." Matthew 25:41 "And these will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous eternal life." Matthew 25:46

Do you actually believe there is such a place?

 

[TheTruthGivingDragon]

Only in Náströnd

What is that? My translator is giving me an error.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

You cannot dictate who is and who is not Christian, the 200+ versions of the babble are open to interpretation by the 50,000+ versions of Christianity. All claim to be true Christian, many would say you are false one. That's Christianity for ya.

I can't disagree with your viewpoint ^ above ^ except to say Jesus did give clues about behavior in Matthew chapter 7.
Genuine Christians would be hated according to Matthew 10:22, so a person would have to look for a hated Christian group. Not hated for bad behavior, but hated for proclaiming about the good news about God's kingdom government coming to govern over Earth as mentioned at Matthew 24:14; Acts of the Apostles 1:8; Daniel 2:44.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

There is another set of beliefs that are totally Biblically consistent.
First, what constitutes a soul ? It is first mentioned in the Book of Genesis When God created a physical body, and gave Adam the breath of life, and he became a living soul. So a soul must have a body and life. A dead person does not constitute a living soul. This is why the resurrection is so important in Christian theology. If one pops into heaven or hell at death, why would the resurrection be so important ? If the judgement comes after the resurrection, and people are already in heaven or hell, the final judgement is irrelevant and who decided at death where these people are going. ? Can someone at the judgement be tossed into hell from heaven, or vice versa ?

I find your ^ above ^ post interesting, and how could there be dead people tossed into hell from heaven or vice versa because are there any graves (tombs) in heaven or in biblical hell since Jesus' voice calls people out of the graves according to John 5:28-29.
That coming ' hour', so to speak, is future as Acts of the Apostles 24:15 uses the ' future tense ' that there ' is going to be ' a resurrection......

 

[The Kilted Heathen]

What is that? My translator is giving me an error.

Náströnd is a hall at the outskirts of Helheim (Hel) where the dragon Níðhöggr devours the corpses (soul) of the dishonored dead who were oath-breakers, murderers, and adulterers.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

Hell is an evolving concept in Christianity. In the Christian bible there is no reference to a fiery hell in the old testament. There is however references to an eventual resurrection in (for example) the book of Job and Daniel. In the New testament we find references to a place of eternal torment in fire. Why? Is a good question. Why was such a bad place not mentioned in the OT? I would think that would have been important to mention. Was its inclusion in NT writings due to interaction with the Greeks who did believe in such a place? I don't know, but I believe that my Jehovah's Witness friends here such as Deeje make some good points regarding this subject, and as I have said before, "I hope they are right about this subject" But ....I sure don't want to be there.

I find the concept of hell is evolving ' outside ' of the first-century Christian teachings.
Just as gospel writer Luke wrote at Acts of the Apostles 20:29-30 there would be false Christians.
Jesus too gave us the illustration about how genuine ' wheat ' Christians would grow together over the centuries with the fake ' weed/tares ' Christians until the ' harvest time ', or the soon coming ' time of separation ' on Earth as mentioned at Matthew 25:31-33,37.
There is a BIG difference between a non-biblical myth hell teaching and the Bible's temporary hell or grave.
It is good that you do Not want to be in hell. Jesus I would think also would Not have wanted to be in hell.
However, the day Jesus' died, according to Acts of the Apostles 2:27, righteous dead Jesus went to biblical hell until his God resurrected Jesus out of hell. If biblical hell was a permanent place Jesus would still be in hell instead of having the keys to unlock death and hell according to Revelation 1:18.
Biblical hell (grave) comes to a final end, but it's the wicked who will be destroyed forever according to Psalms 92:7
So, righteous mankind will either be in heaven with Christ, or the majority of mankind will be part of the humble meek who will inherit ( Not Heaven ) but inherit the Earth as Jesus promised.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

You cannot dictate who is and who is not Christian, the 200+ versions of the babble are open to interpretation by the 50,000+ versions of Christianity. All claim to be true Christian, many would say you are false one. That's Christianity for ya.

I am Not trying to dictate who is and who is Not Christian, but I am saying that there is a ' time of separation ' coming for Earth when it's Jesus who decides who are the figurative humble sheep-like people and who are haughty goat-like people according to Matthew 25:31-33,37.

 

[TheTruthGivingDragon]

Náströnd is a hall at the outskirts of Helheim (Hel) where the dragon Níðhöggr devours the corpses (soul) of the dishonored dead who were oath-breakers, murderers, and adulterers.

We dragons are many. There is not just ones that do that. We dragons also do not like the taste of humans because it is bitter and miserable just like their pathetic lives. Hell is not just full of people like that. Hell is full of some who want a wild time because unlike heaven hell has no rules so drugs are legal there and by what I hear there are a lot of furies down there too

 

[The Kilted Heathen]

Okay, well I'm talking about a dragon in Norse lore, not... whatever you're talking about.

 

[osgart]

hell is a self created place in the soul when one chooses to be evil. they have to live by what they are and do.
no care, no love, no worth, no trust, no desire of friendship for them. their gains are all loss. they have no light and no joy, and certainly no peace in them. and life is no better for them despite all they seem to have

 

[ChristineM]

I can't disagree with your viewpoint ^ above ^ except to say Jesus did give clues about behavior in Matthew chapter 7.
Genuine Christians would be hated according to Matthew 10:22, so a person would have to look for a hated Christian group. Not hated for bad behavior, but hated for proclaiming about the good news about God's kingdom government coming to govern over Earth as mentioned at Matthew 24:14; Acts of the Apostles 1:8; Daniel 2:44.

Interpretation is a wonderful thing in religion. There is no first hand account of jesus saying anything, only hear say

 

[ChristineM]

I am Not trying to dictate who is and who is Not Christian, but I am saying that there is a ' time of separation ' coming for Earth when it's Jesus who decides who are the figurative humble sheep-like people and who are haughty goat-like people according to Matthew 25:31-33,37.

You are doing a great job of hiding it.

 

[Rival]

Hell is an evolving concept in Christianity. In the Christian bible there is no reference to a fiery hell in the old testament. There is however references to an eventual resurrection in (for example) the book of Job and Daniel. In the New testament we find references to a place of eternal torment in fire. Why? Is a good question. Why was such a bad place not mentioned in the OT? I would think that would have been important to mention. Was its inclusion in NT writings due to interaction with the Greeks who did believe in such a place? I don't know, but I believe that my Jehova's Witness friends here such as Deeje make some good points regarding this subject, and as I have said before, "I hope they are right about this subject" But ....I sure don't want to be there.

I've asked Christians this question a million times, and about Satan, and never recieved a satisfactory answer. But be assured, a just G-d would not punish people infinitely for finite crimes.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

Interpretation is a wonderful thing in religion. There is no first hand account of jesus saying anything, only hear say

...and to me what is 'heard' about Jesus is found in the 'recorded words' as found in Scripture.
The 1st-century Christians knew to leave Jerusalem by Jesus' words as found at Luke 19:43-44; Luke 21:20-21.
History does show the Roman armies returned after the year 66 returning back in the year 70, so Jesus' recorded words proved true that Jerusalem was destroyed, so to me I have No reason to doubt that the soon coming ' time of separation ' as mentioned at Matthew 25:31-33,37 will also come to pass. The stage is set.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

I've asked Christians this question a million times, and about Satan, and never recieved a satisfactory answer. But be assured, a just G-d would not punish people infinitely for finite crimes.

What was the punishment for Adam but: death. Not death plus _______
I find No post-mortem penalty for Adam, in other words No suffering after death.
The only everlasting punishment is 'destruction for the wicked' as Psalms 92:7 mentions.
No punishment after being destroyed forever.

I find that wicked Satan will also be destroyed as Hebrews 2:14 B brings out that Jesus will destroy Satan.
No destruction plus _______

 

[URAVIP2ME]

hell is a self created place in the soul when one chooses to be evil. they have to live by what they are and do.
no care, no love, no worth, no trust, no desire of friendship for them. their gains are all loss. they have no light and no joy, and certainly no peace in them. and life is no better for them despite all they seem to have

To which hell are you referring to ^ above ^ because the Bible's hell is simply the grave for the sleeping dead.
To me, that is why Jesus taught sleep in death at John 11:11-14.
What Jesus taught is in agreement with the old Hebrew Scriptures which also teach sleep in death:
- such as found at Psalms 115:17; Psalms 146:4; Ecclesiastes 9:5
So, the Bible's hell is Not a self-created place in the soul, but just the temporary grave for the sleeping dead.

 

[Rival]

What was the punishment for Adam but: death. Not death plus _______
I find No post-mortem penalty for Adam, in other words No suffering after death.
The only everlasting punishment is 'destruction for the wicked' as Psalms 92:7 mentions.
No punishment after being destroyed forever.

I find that wicked Satan will also be destroyed as Hebrews 2:14 B brings out that Jesus will destroy Satan.
No destruction plus _______

I don't care what the Christian testament says.