What is immoral about casual and friendly sex between adults?

[ppp]

In the egoistic society, fuelled by capitalism, American industries and economical catastrophes, the immoral think they are moral while they walk all over the moral for not sinning enough to deserve a place in the society. Yes, you want everyone to be as guilty as you are.

If the immoral think than they are moral, then they cannot think that they are sinning. Or guilty. So if they want everyone to be as guilty as they are, then they dont want anyone to be guilty. Aren't you the clever puppy?

 

[McBell]

The problem is that if people here are claiming to be real atheists, they're going to have to step up their game and stop acting like Christians.

...Or am I wrong?

No REAL Scotsman puts milk in his porridge.

 

[ppp]

The problem is that if people here are claiming to be real atheists, they're going to have to step up their game and stop acting like Christians.

...Or am I wrong?

You didn't actually say anything.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

It seems that you do as you please. I want to do what pleases God.

Why?

 

[Piculet]

Who said whoring?

Definition of whore
(Entry 1 of 2)

1 somewhat old-fashioned : a person who engages in sexual intercourse for pay : prostitute
2 offensive : a promiscuous or immoral woman
3 : a male who engages in sexual acts for money
4 : a venal or unscrupulous person
Definition of WHORE

You did.

I follow Jesus, not just some words from a book.

It's a bit of a contradiction. Almost like an early excuse for all the Bible verses you reject.

1 Corinthians 7:1-2
Now for the matters you wrote about: “It is good for a man not to have sexual relations with a woman.” 2 But since sexual immorality is occurring, each man should have sexual relations with his own wife, and each woman with her own husband.
1 Corinthians 6:18
18 Flee from sexual immorality. Every other sina]">[a] a person commits is outside the body, but the sexually immoral person sins against his own body.

Just what do you think sexual immorality means?

 

[Cooky]

You didn't actually say anything.

Is it "wrong" for a married man to attend a gay orgy on the weekend, behind his wife's back? Yes or no?

 

[ppp]

Eight pages in and no one has yet presented a substantive reason why casual friendly sex should be considered immoral. Got some "Ews" and "Becauses" but that's it.

 

[McBell]

Is it "wrong" for a married man to attend a gay orgy on the weekend, behind his wife back? Yes or no?

Not enough information to answer the question asked.

At least for me.

 

[McBell]

Eight pages in and no one has yet presented a substantive reason why casual friendly sex should be considered immoral. Got some "Ews" and "Becauses" but that's it.

I am not going to be much help.
I do not make any claim that it is immoral.

 

[ppp]

Is it "wrong" for a married man to attend a gay orgy on the weekend, behind his wife's back? Yes or no?

I asked you what wrong means, and you claimed it was meaningless. Don't demand Yes or No answers from me for questions that contains words you cannot even define.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

You did.

It's a bit of a contradiction. Almost like an early excuse for all the Bible verses you reject.
Just what do you think sexual immorality means?

I said I follow Jesus, not Paul. Paul had some good and useful things to say, but some of his advice is specific to that time and place. I think God would be more understanding, especially since we don't live in the 1st century Judean Roman Empire and our culture is totally different. Dating in the modern Western world is very difficult. It's hard enough to find a spouse.

 

[Cooky]

I asked you what wrong means, and you claimed it was meaningless. Don't demand Yes or No answers from me for questions that contains words you cannot even define.

I suppose my argument was never with you anyway... It was directed toward those atheists who suggested a husband required his wifes permission before engaging in extramarital sex.

...But my whole situation was a simulated exercise to begin with. I've never actually had gay sex, or any sex outside my marriage. It was just an exercise to discover the depths of atheism, and how far it goes... And I see it can go quite far.

 

[ppp]

I am not going to be much help.
I do not make any claim that it is immoral.

I hear you, Mestemia. One wonders why anyone ever world.

 

[McBell]

I suppose my argument was never with you anyway... It was directed toward those Atheists who suggested a husband required his wifes permission before engaging in extramarital sex.

...But my whole situation was a simulated exercise to begin with. I've never actually had gay sex, or any sex outside my marriage. It was just an exercise to discover the depths of atheism, and how far it goes... And I see it can go quite far.

WTF does "atheism" have to do with it?

 

[Polymath257]

No. Hormonal birth control is safer.

I didn't say I was. I only meant I have higher moral standards.

No, you have *different* moral standards. For them, you might have the lower standards.

If they have casual sex the casual sex is immoral. If they have casual sex how many other major sins do they commit?

Depends on their religion. What you to be a sin may not be in their belief system.

 

[SomeRandom]

I suppose my argument was never with you anyway... It was directed toward those Atheists who suggested a husband required his wifes permission before engaging in extramarital sex.

...But my whole situation was a simulated exercise to begin with. I've never actually had gay sex, or any sex outside my marriage. It was just an exercise to discover the depths of atheism, and how far it goes... And I see it can go quite far.

I’m no atheist. Not in the “Western sense” anyway.
But if the wife does not mind her husband having gay orgies, then why should I?
If she does, then perhaps marriage counselling is in order. That or they both have gay orgies.
I know far more unconventional theists, if I’m honest.

 

[Polymath257]

Because God says so. Have you not heard?

Not all people believe in your deity. Some have no belief in a deity at all. Others believe in deities that don't care who people have sex with.

Do you mean to imply (in a disgustingly discriminative, prejudiced and offensive way) that religious people commit more rapes in percentages than the non-religious?

Have you seen the statistics?

 

[McBell]

I hear you, Mestemia. One wonders why anyone ever world.

Apparently there are a buttload (actual measurement of 130 US gallons) of gods who are extremely obsessed with our sex lives.

 

[ppp]

I suppose my argument was never with you anyway... It was directed toward those Atheists who suggested a husband required his wifes permission before engaging in extramarital sex.

I guess it depends on what he values. Does he want to maintain the relationship? Does he value his wife's well being. Does his actions comport with the moral metrics?

..But my whole situation was a simulated exercise to begin with. I've never actually had gay sex, or any sex outside my marriage. It was just an exercise to discover the depths of atheism, and how far it goes... And I see it can go quite far.

It was more of an exercise for you to engage dishonestly with false questions and vague statements for some obvious ambushes in pursuit of a hollow victory. But then we all knew that.

 

[Polymath257]

Would it be immoral for a married man to have sex outside of marriage without his wife's knowledge?

That would depend on the agreement with his wife. Some people have a 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' policy. It isn't for me, but some live by it.

The immorality is breaking an agreement with one's spouse.