What is immoral about casual and friendly sex between adults?

[Evangelicalhumanist]

From my perspective, it's a matter of superficiality vs meaning. The OP describes two people looking at each other and deciding to satisfy a momentary craving. The alternative is to look for meaning in relationships where two people really get to know each other and share joys and sorrows, highs and low and all the aspects of the fabric connecting them.

So? Sometimes you want slow-cooked osso bucco, and sometimes you just want a quick snack!

 

[oldbadger]

A: You're intoxicating.
B: You're amazing.
A: Sex?
B: Yes, please. I have till five.
A: I'll get a room across the street.
{pause for lingering kiss}
B: Any health concerns we need to work around?
A: No. And I test quarterly
B: Cool. Me too. But have had HPV
A: Not a problem. You'll get condoms?
B: I'll get the condoms. Latex okay?
A: I'm allergic.
B: Ok. I'll get polyisoprene. Lube preference?
A: Anything water based. And a dam. It will may me more comfortable. And get drinks and snacks. Salty snacks.
B: Will do. Here's my number. Text me with the room number.
A: You bet! {pause for promising kiss} We're going to have so much fun!
B: Feel my heart. It's pounding. I'd better go shopping before I forget how to walk. See you soon!

In your dreams?

 

[oldbadger]

How trusting of you, to take their word for it, that they're clean. Or is that naïvete? Or simply uncontrolled desire overcoming caution.

Maybe they are being honest....they just didn't know they contracted a virus from another partner they had last night.

Relax!
The OP was fast asleep, and dreaming of how it might have been........ if only.

 

[icehorse]

If no one is lying to anyone concerned, this does not seem immoral to me. So - for example - if these are two single people and neither is in a relationship, it seems pretty safe. But if either is already in a relationship, and this happened, I'd wonder whether there would be complete and open honesty with the partner who was not involved in this particular meetup?

 

[ppp]

No. I know a woman who is not religious at all but who would be revolted by the idea of following what your OP suggests.

Me too. That does not disconnect it from religion.

t is in a person naturally a revulsion to anything inappropriate. It is in a person naturally a revulsion to anything inappropriate. It is only the sick society and sick people (morally sick) that take away this natural inclination

Your beliefs revulse me. Therefore, by your reasoning, they are inappropriate, and you represent a morally sick society and culture.

 

[ppp]

Nothing wrong there but missing a phone call to hubby to check its ok with him.

Practical as ever, @ChristineM.

 

[Windwalker]

How trusting of you, to take their word for it, that they're clean. Or is that naïvete? Or simply uncontrolled desire overcoming caution.

Maybe they are being honest....they just didn't know they contracted a virus from another partner they had last night.

Isn't that sort of like not wearing a mask because you trust someone you don't know, not knowing they they contracted a virus from another person not wearing their mask the night before? You mean, exactly like that? Why you should wear masks? And not trust that you or the other person won't infect each other? Like that?

Speaking of which, how do people practice safe sex with covid around? Just take their chance and hope to not get pregnant... I mean infected?

 

[Piculet]

"Studies have shown that PrEP reduces the risk of getting HIV from sex by about 99% when taken consistently. Among people who inject drugs, PrEP reduces the risk of getting HIV by at least 74% when taken consistently. Since PrEP does not protect against other STDs, use condoms the right way every time you have sex."
PrEP | HIV Basics | HIV/AIDS | CDC

So that means that you pretty much can't get it through sex as the odds are so low, if you take it consistently.

Hormonal birth control is more certain and accidents still happen. Not tossing a coin for HIV. Nope, not me. But then it isn't a question to me because I have morals.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Speaking of which, how do people practice safe sex with covid around? Just take their chance and hope to not get pregnant... I mean infected?

Health authorities in BC recommended glory holes as safer options during the pandemic: Try ‘glory holes’ for safer sex during coronavirus, B.C. CDC says

 

[ChristineM]

Religiously it doesn't need to be asked what is immoral about it. It is sin. Sinning is immoral.

Why do you think a natural act, performed between consenting adults to be a sin, to be immoral?

Is it because religion says so the reason i why so many repressed religious guys are so fond of rape?

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Hormonal birth control is more certain and accidents still happen. Not tossing a coin for HIV. Nope, not me. But then it isn't a question to me because I have morals.

There is nothing that is 100%, but PrEP is as close to 100% you're going to get.

Excuse you, but you're not better than anyone else and people who have HIV or are more at risk for it are not immoral.

 

[Piculet]

Why you should wear masks? And not trust that you or the other person won't infect each other?

If you live together it's a waste of effort. I see people wearing face masks and hanging around in groups of ten, all cosily snuggled up together.......for no apparent reason on the street. But hey — they wear face masks!

 

[Unveiled Artist]

How trusting of you, to take their word for it, that they're clean. Or is that naïvete? Or simply uncontrolled desire overcoming caution.

Maybe they are being honest....they just didn't know they contracted a virus from another partner they had last night.

What if there were no "buts"? Why is it moraly wrong? (Assuming marriage doesn't play in here)

 

[Piculet]

There is nothing that is 100%, but PrEP is as close to 100% you're going to get.

No. Hormonal birth control is safer.

Excuse you, but you're not better than anyone else

I didn't say I was. I only meant I have higher moral standards.

are more at risk for it are not immoral.

If they have casual sex the casual sex is immoral. If they have casual sex how many other major sins do they commit?

 

[ppp]

How trusting of you, to take their word for it, that they're clean. Or is that naïvete? Or simply uncontrolled desire overcoming caution.

Maybe they are being honest....they just didn't know they contracted a virus from another partner they had last night.

Why is contracting a cold from someone less significant than contracting chlamydia?

 

[Piculet]

Why do you think a natural act, performed between consenting adults to be a sin, to be immoral?

Because God says so. Have you not heard?

Is it because religion says so the reason i why so many repressed religious guys are so fond of rape?

Do you mean to imply (in a disgustingly discriminative, prejudiced and offensive way) that religious people commit more rapes in percentages than the non-religious?

 

[Cooky]

Nothing wrong there but missing a phone call to hubby to check its ok with him.

What if there were no "buts"? Why is it moraly wrong? (Assuming marriage doesn't play in here)

Would it be immoral for a married man to have sex outside of marriage without his wife's knowledge?

 

[1213]

What is immoral about casual and friendly sex between adults?

Nothing, if it is between you and your wife. If you do it with someone else’s wife, it is adultery and against God’s laws.

 

[Piculet]

Why is contracting a cold from someone less significant than contracting chlamydia?

It's more work to treat and easier to avoid. Also, it's embarrassing when in places of "liberty" like the US STDs become epidemic. Do you think one day we'll have a pandemic like covid but with chlamydia?

Infections in the United States from three sexually transmitted diseases hit a record high in 2018 — a high that threatens millions of Americans, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said.

According to a 2018 STD Surveillance Report from the CDC, combined cases of syphilis, gonorrhea and chlamydia reached an all-time high in the United States last year with more than 2.4 million cases.

More than 1.75 million cases of chlamydia were reported last year, the most ever reported to the CDC, according to the report. Cases of primary and secondary syphilis — the two most infectious stages — rose 14 percent since 2017, with more than 35,000 cases. That's the most reported since 1991.
STDs at all-time high: CDC warns syphilis, gonorrhea, and chlamydia sexually transmitted disease cases reach record high - CBS News

 

[ChristineM]

Because God says so. Have you not heard?

Do you mean to imply (in a disgustingly discriminative, prejudiced and offensive way) that religious people commit more rapes in percentages than the non-religious?

Which god? Haven't you heard that there are thousands?

No implications, check out the prison statistics. What is disgusting discriminative, prejudiced and offensive about facts? Just because you don't like my comment in no way makes it disgusting discriminative, prejudiced and offensive